Re: [Imap-protocol] If Crispin were creating IMAP today how would it be different?
"Hoa V. DINH" <[email protected]> Mon, 9 Mar 2015 12:05:30 -0700
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By using a generic DB protocol to sync emails, it sounds like it would be easy to break your email database consistency. It would also add a big constraints with the choice of implementation of the storage of the emails on server side and client side. There was also a mention of using a binary protocol in this thread. I think using human readable text protocol is still a very good idea since it makes it easier to debug just by logging input/output of the protocol. I’ve used a lot this way of debugging things: for IMAP, SMTP and (unrelated but for) HTTP requests. -- Hoa V. DINH On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Bill Janssen wrote: > Bron Gondwana <[email protected] (mailto:[email protected])> wrote: > > > > And let the DB guys solve the intermittent connection problems :-). > > > Oracle, for instance, has a "Mobile Server" product that synchonizes a > > > local cache on a mobile device with a remote Oracle DB, including SSL > > > encryption on the sync connection, and data compression. > > > > > > > > > The problem is, DB protocols are pretty chatty. And you need to solve > > authencation too. > > > > > I'm guessing that's why Oracle has a sync protocol instead of a remote > DB protocol. The mobile client works against an on-phone copy of the > DB, using a variant of Oracle's full SQL -- the documentation says it is > SQLite compatible -- and then there's a minimal sync protocol which > keeps that in step with the full DB back on the server. Interesting > question as to whether the on-phone copy is a subset or not. > > > Seriously, I think we've pretty much done what you're suggesting in > > JMAP, but we've solved the latency problems that chatty protocols have > > when you don't have a nice short piece of solid copper between you and > > the server as well. > > > > > Sure, JMAP's great, but it's very email-specific. Seems to me this is a > problem which lots of other domains have as well. So: take JMAP, skip > the enumeration of email object types, generalize the getFooUpdates to > get/putTableUpdates, add some ability to specify per-table > parameterization which says things like how much of the remote table you > need locally, how frequently it needs to be updated, how precious > on-device changes are, etc., and you've got a general protocol. > > That way, when you want to add a new object type, say Conference Rooms, > you don't need to change the protocol. > > Bill > > > > > Bron. > > > > -- > > Bron Gondwana > > [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]) > > _______________________________________________ > > Imap-protocol mailing list > > [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]) > > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/imap-protocol > > > > _______________________________________________ > Imap-protocol mailing list > [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]) > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/imap-protocol > > _______________________________________________ Imap-protocol mailing list [email protected] http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/imap-protocol