Re: current state

On Wed, 02 May 2007 16:14:24 +0200 Christian Buhtz <[email protected]> wrote:

CB> Vadim Zeitlin schrieb:
CB> > First, I don't really advise using Mahogany as a news reader. It can be
CB> > used for this but it's really not convenient compared with a real news
CB> > reader.
CB> 
CB> What is the difference between M and other nntp-clients? Just the gui or 
CB> problems with coding?

 The UI mainly, I think. It misses many things essential for a news reader.

CB> btw: Where can I set the language to english? I found nothing like this 
CB> in the global settings.

 The language is determined by the current locale but can be overridden
from the command line using the --lang option (see "./M --help").

CB> Ok, I start M and open the nntp-server preferences.
CB> The first section is Access ("Zugriff").
CB> The is a username ("Benutzername"), password, server and newsgroup.
CB> I would think that this are the login infos for the nntp-server.

 Yes.

CB> But I do not understand what the field "newsgroup" has to do on this 
CB> place? Can I just subscribe to one newsgroup? Of course not, I think!?

 You can. Each folder in M folder tree corresponds to one newsgroup, e.g.
try entering comp.soft-sys.wxwindows here.

CB> The second section is Identity ("Identität"). This sections is quite 
CB> logic. But there is a username ("Benutzername") field. What is this? 

 It's the user name used by default. You're right that it doesn't seem to
be very useful to have it here as the login in the "Access" page already
inherits from the parent.

CB> What happens if I fill there and in the first-section-username-field 
CB> different strings?

 The login name on the "Access" page takes precedence. If it's not
specified, the user name is used.
 
CB> The user-qestion is which mail-account do I need If I answer by mail to 
CB> a newsgroup-posting. I quite silly user like me would just select one of 
CB> his existing mail-accounts. Settings a smtp-server and smtp-login again 
CB> is quite irritating and ineficent by time.

 Yes, I agree. We should have a notion of "accounts" and I even was going
to implement this a couple of years ago but finally never did. It shouldn't
be difficult to add a combobox allowing to choose an existing "identity" to
the "Identity" page which would allow to set all the values there at once.

CB> Then there is a nttp-server-field, nntp-userlogin and nntp-password. 
CB> Why? There was a such fields in the first section, too? What is the 
CB> difference between them and why do I need it?

 I see how this is confusing but actually it does make sense from some
point of view. These settings are used for the new posts and you can create
a new NNTP post from any folder, not necessarily a newsgroup (again, this
is something I actually used to do sometimes to post announces to c.o.l.a).
So while when you're in an NNTP folder you clearly want to post to this
server (and I hope this is how it happens right now), these values are the
defaults which are used for any kind of folder.

CB> But why are there server-items in the tree-ctrl under the folders. Why 
CB> do I need them instead of the folders?

 Sorry, I don't understand this, what do you mean? There is no distinction
between servers and folders in Mahogany (maybe wrongly).

 Regards,
VZ


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