Re: How to control order of delivery

Yes, my web hosting provider uses "sendmail" with "majordomo" and I 
found the file located at "/etc/aliases". I pasted the contents of that 
  file below.

Please confirm that the line should be modified to look as follows (all 
on a single line):

lourds_announcements: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l 
lourds_announcements -h irbl.net 
lourds_announcements-outgoing,[email protected],[email protected]"

I do not have rights to modify any "system" file so I submit a request 
to my web hosting provider's technical support people and they make the 
change for me. I noticed that the file has a comment at the top that 
states to run "newaliases" after modifying the "aliases" file. They 
probably already know that but am I correct that I should specifically 
ask them to run it after the change (just in case they did not know)?

Am I correct that if I will leave those two email addresses in the main 
mailing list, after this change, those two email addresses should get 
the email very quickly after an email is sent to the list and a second 
copy will arrive the usual 30 minutes later? If I am correct, if that 
happens (getting 2 emails 30 minutes apart), then I know the change was 
done correctly and I can then remove those two email addresses from the 
main list?

Thanks again for all your assistance.

******************************************************************
#
#	@(#)aliases	8.2 (Berkeley) 3/5/94
#
#  Aliases in this file will NOT be expanded in the header from
#  Mail, but WILL be visible over networks or from /bin/mail.
#
#	>>>>>>>>>>	The program "newaliases" must be run after
#	>> NOTE >>	this file is updated for any changes to
#	>>>>>>>>>>	show through to sendmail.
#

# Basic system aliases -- these MUST be present.
MAILER-DAEMON:	postmaster
postmaster:	root
site_blackhole: /dev/null

root:	bkoopersmith
catch-all:	bkoopersmith

majordomo:	"|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo"
lourds_announcements: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l 
lourds_announcements -h irbl.net lourds_announcements-outgoing"
lourds_announcements-outgoing: 
:include:/var/lib/majordomo/lists/lourds_announcements
lourds_announcements-list: 
:include:/var/lib/majordomo/lists/lourds_announcements
owner-lourds_announcements: [email protected]
lourds_announcements-owner: [email protected]
lourds_announcements-approval: [email protected]
lourds_announcements-request: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l 
lourds_announcements"
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: How to control order of delivery
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 04:22:20 -0600
From: Daniel Liston <[email protected]>
To: Barry Koopersmith <[email protected]>
CC: [email protected]

On a machine that hosts domains, the file could be called anything
and located anywhere.  Look for /etc/aliases or /etc/mail/aliases
as a flat text file.  If your MTA is other than sendmail, that hint
might not be worth the electrons that sent it either.  You edit the
file with your favorite text editor like vi, emacs, or pico.

The line you want to replace should look something like this;
lourds_announcements: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l 
lourds_announcements lourds_announcements-list,nobody"

when you modify it, it should look like this;
lourds_announcements: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l 
lourds_announcements 
lourds_announcements-list,[email protected],[email protected]"

Depending on the location for the majordomo wrapper, the path above
could be different.  The example I used is from a redhat installation.
Also, your outgoing alias might be named different.  The example I
used "lourds_announcements-list" might have a different extension to
replace "list" with "outgoing", "20050220", or any random string.

Dan Liston

PS.  Both of the examples above are on a single line, just in case
this email gets long lines wrapped into multiple lines.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: How to control order of delivery
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:36:03 -0500
From: Barry Koopersmith <[email protected]>
To: Daniel Liston <[email protected]>
CC: [email protected]

Thank you for your response.

I am new to using mailing lists. I bought the "Managing Mailing Lists"
by Alan Schwartz book but I cannot figure out how to implement your
suggestion.

I only have two email addresses that I want to speed up delivery for.
The two addresses are [email protected] and [email protected].
The mailing list name is lourds_announcements. Please tell me the name
of the file and the exact command line that I would need to insert (and
where in the file it should be placed) based on the above values.

Thanks for your help.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: How to control order of delivery
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:41:54 -0600
From: Daniel Liston <[email protected]>
To: Barry Koopersmith <[email protected]>
CC: [email protected]

If this is just for one or two addresses, you might speed things along
considerably by adding the addresses directly to the aliases file.

listname: "/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l listname
listname-outgoing,addr1,addr2"
or
listname-outgoing: addr1,addr2,:include:/path-to/lists/listname

Dan Liston

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: How to control order of delivery
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:24:12 -0500
From: Barry Koopersmith <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]

I have a mailing list of about 1400 addresses (including my address).
When an email is posted to the list, I get my copy from 30 to 45 minutes
later. I tried move my email address to the top of the list of names but
I still did not receive my copy quickly.

Does the Majordomo software send out the emails in alphabetical order of
the addresses (regardless of the order in the address list file) or what
controls the order of delivery.?

Is there a way to configure the distribution so that two particular
addresses get the emails first (and hopefully quickly)?

Thanks to anyone who can help me out.