Re: owner-group getting emails

Update:

I found that I had left the alias in /etc/aliases for nobody pointing to 
root. In my old system I pointed it at /tmp/ZZ/nobody.alias so I could 
take a peek in there once in a while. I hadn't been 'peeking' for so long, 
I had forgotten about it.

I changed it to:

nobody: /dev/null

so that problem seems to be gone.

Now if I can only figure out why Dovecot/Apache doesn't want to authorize 
webmail access.

Oh, and thanks Dan. You've been there for the 12-15 years I've been doing 
this (on the side, sometimes poorly).

Karl

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008, Karl Pearson wrote:

> I'm not sure about the failures because I've not watched the MD log before, 
> but Here's a line that is causing me some concern:
>
> Sep 15 11:31:50 ourldsfamily.com majordomo[30210] {cathyvhunt 
> <Her.Emailaddr>} ABORT chown(8, 512, 
> "/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/ldsmmpacificso.new"): Operation not permitted
>
> And,  there's an empty group in the lists folder named ldsmmpacificso.new and 
> I didn't create it. I'm looking at permissions now. A HA!!! For some reason 
> the group on the lists folder, and some of the lists, was still 512, from the 
> old system. Drat! I hate when that happens.
>
> I'll be watching now...
>
> But, any other thoughts will be more than welcome.
>
> Karl
>
> On Mon, 15 Sep 2008, Daniel Liston wrote:
>
>> Sendmail uses the owner- prefix to notify, or as last resort, for delivery
>> to the group name when there are problems, even outside of majordomo list
>> configuration.  Could this be what is happening based on the crash or not
>> quite perfect (dns problems) rebuild, and you are still seeing side effects
>> of mail that was still queued up?  Do the sendmail or majordomo log files
>> have any hints or indications of failed deliveries that might apply to your
>> current situation?  What about the "Received:" headers of the messages you
>> are receiving?  Do these show original recipient vs. final delivery being
>> your mailbox?
>> 
>> Dan Liston
>> 
>> Karl Pearson wrote:
>>> Okay, each group owner is in the aliases file. I just copied them from the 
>>> old server's hard disk, and when I run newaliases, they come up okay.
>>> 
>>> In the .config files, the sender is listed as owner-groupname.
>>> 
>>> The owner is not subscribed to any group as [email protected]. In 
>>> fact, I'm not subscribed to any of the groups I'm getting email for...
>>> 
>>> Karl
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 14 Sep 2008, Daniel Liston wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Does owner-group exist in your aliases file?  Are you using multiple
>>>> aliases files?  Do any of your group config files refer to owner-group?
>>>> Is owner-group directly subscribed to any of the groups?  Since you are
>>>> on a new machine, these little details are important.
>>>> 
>>>> Dan Liston
>>>> 
>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> What would cause the owner of groups (me) to get emails to the group?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Situation: Mail server crashed; re-installed on new server. after 
>>>>> getting DNS working, things are much happier, but little things are 
>>>>> amiss, like the subject line. I don't know how busy the groups are, but 
>>>>> it seems some are putting email to owner-groupname in my inbox...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Majordomo 1.94.5
>>>>> Fedora 8
>>>>> Sendmail v8.14.2
>>>>> 
>>>>> TIA,
>>>>> 
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>>>>>     _/ _/       _/      _/    _/     ____________  _-\<._
>>>>>    _/_/        _/      _/_/_/                     (_)/ (_)
>>>>>   _/ _/       _/      _/           ......................
>>>>>  _/   _/ arl _/_/_/  _/ earson    [email protected]
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>>>>> http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com
>>>>> ---
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---
>>>      _/  _/      _/      _/_/_/       ____________   __o
>>>     _/ _/       _/      _/    _/     ____________  _-\\<._
>>>    _/_/        _/      _/_/_/                     (_)/ (_)
>>>   _/ _/       _/      _/           ......................
>>>  _/   _/ arl _/_/_/  _/ earson    [email protected]
>>> ---
>>> http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com
>>> ---
>>> 
>> 
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>     _/  _/      _/      _/_/_/       ____________   __o
>    _/ _/       _/      _/    _/     ____________  _-\\<._
>   _/_/        _/      _/_/_/                     (_)/ (_)
>  _/ _/       _/      _/           ......................
> _/   _/ arl _/_/_/  _/ earson    [email protected]
> ---
> http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com
> ---
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  _/   _/ arl _/_/_/  _/ earson    [email protected]
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