Re: confused with moderating a list

Daniel Liston wrote:
> I think you are very close to having the process correct and complete
> with one exception;
> 
> All mail is really two (or more) pieces of information.  You have an
> envelope which exposes sender and receiver, postage and a postmark,
> as well as any irrelevant comments.  Inside the envelope is the bill,
> newsletter, bank statement, or a combination of them all.  In other
> words, the message body.  I could get into attachments and MIME parts,
> but they all really count as message body contents anyway.
> 
> So the piece you are missing in your process to moderate a mailing
> list is simply a separation of envelope and message.  This is a blank
> line.

Hi Daniel,

Sorry for the delay.  Been following your message at work and gave
up since I didn't have much time to spend on this issue.  Now that
I have some time, I figured I'd do a test mailing list.

At this moment, I got it working provided I remove the quotes.
Here's what I mean.

1) I receive the BOUNCE message.
2) I click on reply (using Seamonkey).
3) It quotes everything in the post.
4) I remove the top part up to but not including the
    initial From: header.
5) I remove the "> " from the post.
6) I add the blank line and then Approved: <password>
    after the blank line and before the message.
7) I send.

If I don't remove the quotes, it obviously doesn't
know the subject and from, so it posts an empty
subject message with the whole quoted message
and then the From: and To:.

Is this by design?

Thanks

Edmund
> 
> Since you don't really need the postage, postmark, or comments in the
> distributed message, you can send an approval like this; (cut from the
> list-owner-info text file included with majordomo)
> 
> From: [email protected]         \
> To: [email protected]  | Don't want these headers
> Subject: BOUNCE: approval required  /
>                                     - Blank line
>>From [email protected]  date    \
> Received: some long routing info    | Headers of original message;
> From: [email protected]          | You want these.  It's OK if you
> To: [email protected]           | don't have the first line.
> Subject: Just a message             /
>                                     - Blank line, you _must_ have this!
> Hello.  I'm just writing to         \
> consume some bandwidth and          | Message body; include all of
> take up space in your mail          | this.
> spool!                              /
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> 
> Technically, you only care about the To: From: Subject: and perhaps
> even the Date: fields of the envelope, but these must be preceded
> with the keyword Approved: followed by the appropriate password.
> 
> What you send back to your list, not majordomo now looks like this;
> 
> Approved: secret pass code
>> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Just a message
> 
> 
> Hello.  I'm just writing to
> consume some bandwidth and
> take up space in your mail
> spool!
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> 
> Notice you are allowed to use MORE than one blank line to
> separate the headers from the body.  The crucial factor is
> that your email client does not introduce any blank lines
> above your approved line, and that the blank line that is
> used to separate the body from the header is truly a blank
> line, not some non-printable whitespace character.
> 
> Final note:  Some MTAs enforce the rfc822 requirement to
> use CR/LF as a line termination sequence in email.  If you
> have one of these, you need to check the documentation of
> your MTA for relaxing the restriction, or put a line of
> perl code in majordomo.pl and resend so it can strip the
> extra character to recognize and call the line "blank".
> 
> ***majordomo.pl
> 59c59,60
> <     s/\n\s+/ /g;
> ---
>>     s/[\^M]//g;       # strip DOS <CR> from lines
>>     s/\n\s+/ /g;      # unfold wrapped headers
> 
> The ^M is a single character created by typing ctrl-v then ctrl-m.
> 
> ***resend
> 591c591
> <
> ---
>>      s/[\^M]//g;      # strip DOS <CR> from end of lines
> 
> If you are familiar with unix patch or diff, the above line is
> inserted at line 59 in majordomo.pl, and replaces a blank line
> 591 in resend.  Another solution, instead of stripping out the
> carriage return would be to actually accept ^M or CR/LF as an
> acceptable line termination sequence.
> 
> The above line numbering assumes you have an unpatched 1.94.5
> version of majordomo.  If not, you may need some help to locate
> the actual place to insert the modification.
> 
> Happy New Year,
> Dan Liston
>