Re: how to change 'restrict_post' by command
"Julian H. Stacey" <[email protected]> Sat, 31 Aug 2013 00:27:07 +0200
| Newsgroups | gmane.mail.majordomo.general |
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| Organization | http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany |
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Hi, Reference: > From: Sean Casey <[email protected]> > Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 13:55:41 -0700 Sean Casey wrote: > Bigby Findrake said on 8/30/2013 1:13 PM: > > On Fri, 30 Aug 2013, Joe R. Jah wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 30 Aug 2013, [email protected] wrote: > >> > >>> But, the administrator of ML can not access Mailing List server's local > >>> file system. > >>> So, he or she can not create member list files for 'restrict_post'. > >>> > >>> If you have any methods or ideas to solve it, would you help me by > >>> informing me your ideas ? > >> > >> You can change restrict_post, along with any other parameter by changing > >> the list configuration; send the following commands: > > > > So far everyone seems to be missing the OP's point: configuring the > > restrict_post setting is of limited use if the mailing list > > administrators are not able to place files on the mailing list server, a > > shortcoming which majordomo does nothing in itself to address. > > The only way I've found to use restrict_post absent direct access to the > server files is to set it to be the same as the list itself; that is, to > restrict post to the one file that CAN be administered using majordomo's > email interface. As Bigby points out, that is a "limited use" which only > servers to restrict posts to the list members, but I've found it to be > better than no restrictions at all. Joe's last post is correct. Ref. Sean's "The only way I've found to use restrict_post" ... Here's a sample of extended use: file: hike.config for list hike@ restrict_post = .hike-org-trusted-extras .trusted-extras old-committee hike-org other-org Several classes of people can write a large list "Hikers" <hike@...> (hike@ is an announcement only list, 'cos a lot of people on a number of lists I run are clueless & used to flood lists with junk ) A small list of "Hike Organisers" <hike-org@...> can use their own list to discuss dates/ venues, but membership of walk-org@ also gives them permission to announce to big hike@ list. other-org@ list of organisers for a related sport are allowed to announce to hike@ Members of .hike-org-trusted-extra (which is not a list just a file, so for that one I do need direct access to host) are also allowed to write to hike@ (eg trusted hikers, capable of organising, who do not want routine mail of hike-org@) (There's nothing special about file name beginning in a dot, just for my convenience) Members of file (not corresponding to a list name) .trusted-extras, I append that to almost all restrict_post lines: holiday/ emergency/ on site staff, they dont want all list mail, they do need permission to announce. BTW For anyone ramping up, supporting a growing number of hundreds of clueless lazy end users with majordomo@ (As I do, a few lists of highly skilled people, but mostly lists of mostly self admitted clueless );... To save some re-inventing wheels as I had to, you might want to look at &/or use texts I put up to keep subscribers at bay, who regularly try to waste my time: http://berklix.org/help/ ( OK I also added stuff in headers & footers, & I also generate all my .configs with a Makefile, ('cos I didnt understand/ feel like trusting the majordomo.cf generic defaults in case they changed), + of course I added a lot of phrases like "please [un]sub me" both to majordomo forbidden phrases for lists & personal .procmail spam filter.) One day i might move to Mailman, but I got bitten when I tried years back http://www.berklix.org/help/majordomo/#mailman + with extra time invested to get majordomo@ & lists running smoothly, & fearing ~600 clueless users too lazy to learn, who try to force sub. requests on me personaly - I'm loath to risk rocking the boat, despite Mailman's attractions, so I'll probably still be running majordomo for some long time. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with "> ". Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative.