Re: bouncehandler-unsubscribe shell-hook

On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:00:05 -0800, Michael Yount wrote
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> > 3) bounces hit a limit and shell-hook sets the user to "no messages" and
> > issues a warning to user to fix the bounce problem with their account
> >   
> What happens if the warning message bounces?

It counts against their bounce total.

> > 4) bounces pass a limit, and user is auto-unsubscribed
> >   
> If delivery is disabled, clearly there won't be bounces.  If a 
> subscriber takes the trouble to re-enable delivery, why would you 
> want to count the preceding bounces against that user in the bounce rules?
>

Because thats my preference. I keep encountering users who sign up and then
bounce messages back to the list because their spam filters are too
restrictive. Every message from the list I run is hand checked by the
moderators to ensure that no spam or off topic message gets sent. I don't
really have very many options for users who don't add counter-weight rules to
their over-sensitive spam filtering for lists they've signed up for, other
than to warn them and then unsubscribe them if it continues.

> > I'm confused about the shell hooks being included. The help says that
> > majordomo uses them, but if they aren't included I guess mj does not use them?
> A shell hook runs a program or script that you write that is 
> specific to your needs. There aren't any restrictions on what 
> programming language the program uses, nor upon what it does, so 
> there's no way I could provide an example for you to follow.

Okay, I get it now. The wording of "help shell_hook" is confusing to me since
it makes it sound like the shell hook scripts described are included (I'm not
formally educated in CS, and have never heard of a shell-hook previously). I
understand now that they are not included. In my opinion, it would be more
clear if it were specifically mentioned in the shell-hook help that the
scripts are not included, they are only called - and will only be executed if
you put a script there that is named appropriately.

I really appreciate the answers, and thank you for the nice software.

Thanks,
Alex