Re: Mj2 Stopped Working

Michael wrote: " ... If the extra .org is not present in any of the alias or 
vut files, the most likely explanation is that the MTA has not recognized 
the updated aliases.  Can you verify the aliases using the ESMTP EXPN 
command or by some other means? ... "

Well, I wish I had written it down, but I didn't and I can't recall 
precisely ... however ...

When fiddling with aliases, I think it was when I would run newaliases, I'd 
get a warning that my virtual user table (vut) was out of date. I probably 
thought I was solving the problem by restarting one or more services on the 
server.

I think that the problem had to do with the way I was answering the 
following during the Mj2 Makefile.PL process:

>> Should Majordomo maintain your aliases automatically?
>> Should Majordomo maintain virtual user tables?
>> Should Majordomo make links to alias and virtual user files?

For this particular domain/installation, one or two of those had "yes" 
answers. I don't recall now. The last time, I changed to "no" for all, and I 
haven't had a problem since.

(When lists change, I make the changes manually to /etc/aliases. And I do 
have the symlink from smrsh to mj_enqueue. It's actually quite simple and 
easy to do, of course, but most of my clients can't do it so I'm somewhat 
restricted to running Mj2 only on domains I also maintain.)

I have made other installations of Mj2 work answering "yes" to all three of 
those questions. This is on Linux Fedora servers with sendmail. But we also 
use the Ensim control panel software, which presents the challenge. Mj2 has 
to be installed on a domain-by-domain basis (and cron jobs can't be run 
because of file ownership conflicts in the chrooted environment, so I do the 
"triggers" thing manually now and then). But the bigger deal is that Ensim 
upgrades, patches, and so on, regenerate the default sendmail.cf file and 
I'd lose my Mj2 aliases link. So I gave up on fussing with sendmail, and 
enter the aliases manually.

Anyway, I hope no one thought I was complaining about Mj2. I wasn't! My 
problems, I know, have to do with my non-techie brain and Ensim software 
issues. Just as an aside, I also have some experience now with Mailman. And, 
in my opinion, perhaps based on the specific clients, for sure, it is far 
easier to explain the Mj2 web interface to subscribers than the Mailman 
interface. The options are "way cooler" too. List owners are a different 
story, but that has to do with the "abundance," let's call it, of options. 
It can take a day or two to get list owners oriented. But, once up to speed, 
I've never heard one of them say, "Gee, I wish we had Mailman."

I love Mj2.

Thanks, Michael (and everyone who's helped or worked on this thing)!

Dean