Re: Rationale for fully standard VERP in MJ2?

John L <[email protected]> Mon, 3 Sep 2007 09:14:07 -0400 (EDT)
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Boy, you just don't give up.

> I can't find any RFC about VERP

It doesn't need one.  Section 4.1.2 of RFC 2821 defines the reverse path 
argument to the MAIL FROM command, with which VERP is fully compliant.  It 
was compliant with the corresponding section of RFC 821, also.

> This is why other listservers typically use VERP with extreme care - 
> e.g. only once per month for subscription reminders, but not for regular 
> email on the list.

Sorry, but once again you are completely mistaken.  The reason that some 
other list software only VERPs some of its mail is the expense of outbound 
(not inbound) handling of per-user bounce addresses in MTAs like sendmail. 
Systems that handle per-user bounce addresses efficiently can and do VERP 
everything.  Ezmlm, which is designed to work with qmail, VERPs 
everything.  If you look at bulk mail from large commercial mailers that 
use specialized high performance MTAs, nearly all of it uses VERP or some 
other per-message bounce address now.

> Yes, I can "fix" my MTA, but this is clearly not the correct way to 
> solve this problem.

That's fine.  You won't change your software, and we won't change ours. 
Now please stop complaining.

Regards,
John Levine, [email protected], Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, ex-Mayor
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