Re: Mulberry - the future?

+1 for Pimlical! I have been using it since several years now... but 
doesn't solve the Mulberry problem!

Michel
Le 13/02/2014 23:28, John C Klensin a écrit :
> Sigh.
>
> Go away for a couple of days, come back and see a lot of
> mulberry messages and cheer up, read them and get depressed
> again.
>
> For background, I'm rumored to know something about email
> although that claim in contentious in some quarters.  That
> probably qualifies me for the "techie" ranks.  Unfortunately, I
> haven't written production code in, well, just about as long as
> their has been a web, so I'm pretty useless for anything but
> design, QA, and whining, none of which Mulberry needs right now
> (more's the pity about at least the second).
>
> I've been using Mulberry since Simeon disappeared (from memory,
> circa 2000).  I'm dependent on several of the features others
> have mentioned, especially including multiple accounts with
> multiple folders per account.  In addition, I like the UI
> because I'm used to it and it doesn't get in the way.  I
> consider, e.g., that Mulberry's unwillingness to automatically
> follow links in HTML messages as an important security feature.
> But I'm also very dependent on IMAP disconnected (not just
> online or offline) mode, which Mulberry doesn't implement very
> well, but does support.  I use subaddresses a lot, for which
> Mulberry's support is adequate but not wonderful.    Those
> things and others support a comment made by a colleague some
> years ago that all IMAP clients suck, but Mulberry sucks a lot
> less than the others.
>
> I'll probably stick with it as long as possible, but the writing
> is on the wall.  I don't know whether the absence of support for
> recent IMAP extensions, some unfriendliness to the Win7 / 8
> environment, no prospect of support for messages that use
> non-ASCII addresses or headers, support difficulties with things
> like PGP and newer X.509 certificate extensions, or something
> else will get to me first but what all of them have in common is
> that Mulberry was fine when development stopped but the world is
> passing it by.
>
> Prompted by others on this list, I've looked at CLAWS MAIL and
> Postbox and, at least judging from their documentation, don't
> find them interesting.    For example, unless it is well hidden,
> neither supports disconnected mode.  And they seem to be about
> clever UI features and images that I've found mostly slow me and
> the software down.
>
> If Mulberry dies of old age, it really isn't clear to me where
> those of us who handle a lot of mail on multiple client machines
> will go.  That is, for me, pretty scary as well as depressing.
>
>     john
>
> p.s. (spontaneous uncompensated pitch): For those of you who are
> looking for a calendar and/or contacts tool that keeps the
> information under your control rather than "in the cloud" with
> access rules that don't match your needs, and who are running
> Windows and/or Android systems, look at Pimlical
> (http://www.pimlicosoftware.com/).  It is written in Java, so
> those who prefer other platforms need to convince the author
> that there is sufficient demand for it to justify the conversion
> and support costs. And the people who miss the Palm (or, like
> me, are still using one) will recognize Pimlical as an offspring
> of DateBk5.