Re: SMTP problem

Sorry. Yes: Windows7 and Mulberry 4.0.8 on all PCs. Obviously, what annoys 
me is that it functions without hiccups on 2 with seemingly identical 
configurations.

I saw your note about locks. That feels like a good thought. How might I 
search for/locate those?

I can, of course, undo the "hold messages" and see if that resolves the 
issue, but I do find it useful.

Many thanks!

Tim


--On Thursday, March 05, 2015 12:57 PM -0500 John C Klensin 
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> --On Thursday, March 05, 2015 8:34:39 -0500
>> From: "B. Timothy Walsh" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> ...
>> I hope someone is out there, still thinking about Mulberry...
>>
>> I am a long-term user, but with limited technical expertise. I
>> use Mulberry  as my primary email (IMAP) client on my 3 PC's.
>> On 2 of the 3, it works  without a hitch.
>
> This may or may not turn out to be relevant, but does "3 PCs"
> imply "Windows" and, if so, what versions are on each machine?
> You also didn't mention whether you are still running Mulberry
> 4.0.8 or if you switched to one of the development versions.
>
>> But, on the third, I have a persistent problem with the SMTP
>> account, even  though the setup is identical to the other 2
>> PCs. One feature of my setup  on all 3 PCs is that, on the
>> SMTP account, I use the option to "hold  messages when added
>> to the queue" so I can double-check the message before  it is
>> really sent.
>>
>> I am afraid I cannot give a simple description of the problem,
>> but here are  a couple of symptoms:
>>
>> -if I push enable/disable on the SMTP account, I get a "timed
>> out" while  connecting to server error.
>>
>> -if I decide to edit a message in the queue, and then hit
>> "send," I get the  error message "File in use elsewhere while
>> appending message to a mailbox"  for the SMTP account.
>>
>> If I shut down Mulberry and restart, it works OK for the first
>> Email, but  then the problem immediately recurs. I have tried
>> uninstalling and  reinstalling, but to no avail.
>>
>> I would be grateful for any suggestions. Many thanks!
>
> I haven't seen the symptoms you are describing, but I generally
> don't use "hold messages" on machines running Windows versions
> later than XP.  I have seen problems (with 4.0.8) vaguely
> similar to those you describe that result from changes in
> locking mechanisms and file locations (due to changes in the
> conventional directory hierarchy) with Windows versions from
> Vista and Win 7 forward, with not all of those newer versions
> exhibiting the same symptoms.
>
> 4.0.8 didn't quite get the change from storing configuration
> information in the "Program Files" tree to storing it below
> "Documents and Settings\<user name>' right and of course doesn't
> know about the much larger rearrangements that occurred later.
> So, if I saw those symptoms, I'd start looking for locks that
> aren't being reset because they aren't in quite the locations
> Mulberry expects, etc.   Once identified, it is possible to get
> around some of those issues by putting links in the right
> places, but others just require getting used to.
>
> My rather sad and pessimistic guess is that Mulberry isn't going
> to survive many more Windows versions unless some very serious
> maintenance work is done -- not good in combination with a
> situation in which most of the work seems to be on Apple, Linux,
> or Unix platforms.
>
>    best,
>     john
>
>