Re: Is anybody working on Mulberry now?

Gleason <[email protected]> Wed, 20 Dec 2017 12:16:05 -0500
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Tanstaafl,

> On 12/20/2017, 11:27:48 AM, Gleason <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> The list is properly configured with list headers, which is what any
>>> sane client should use to determine List Replies with a single click.

>> Yet every single one of them does it wrong in my tests here
>> thunderbird

> As I said, it works perfectly for me in TB, so not sure what are you
> doing wrong - probably not using the Smart Reply button (or CTRL+SHIFT+L
> for Reply to List, which does nothing if there are no List headers).

No.  And I said, this is not only Thunderbird.

>> Note that Pegasus does allow a choice of quote or not, and does
>> allow you to choose reply address.  But no box is prechecked, and if
>> you close the window without choosing, yup, the default is direct
>> address to the the person.

> TB has a 'Smart Reply' button that automatically replies to list when
> list headers are present - if not, then it replies to the sender, or
> whatever is in the 'Reply-To' field, if non-empty.

>>> As to what to quote - in TB, all you do is select/highlight what you
>>> want to quote before replying. Can't get any simpler than that.

>> You really are a Thunderbird evangelist aren't you?

> Nope, just a happy end user pointing out an excellent and very simple
> feature that most other clients don't have.

>> Why are you here?

> Signed up to the list a long time ago when researching alternatives to
> TB when I thought it might die when Mozilla all but abandoned it
> (happily, it is doing better than ever since then).

>  Hoping to pick up a few new Thunderbird users?  Why would you
>> care?

> I don't... not sure why you seem to care so much.

Then maybe you could give up on the evangelism.  Email clients being a subj=
ective, very
personal choice, after all.

Why do I care?  Because it looks to me like the demise of Mulberry was a gr=
eat loss.  And high
quality email clients are important to me.  I long ago gave up on hoping fo=
r a miracle though.

The truth is that online communication has left email clients behind.  Too =
difficult to do well,
and too difficult to configure if done well.  Users and programmers have ag=
reed there
are less troublesome ways.  A web interface with no user setup was preferre=
d.  And this is the age
of the mobile device, with again, very simple interface and minimal setup.

I am a dinosaur.  I refuse to carry a cell phone or use webmail.

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Gleason
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<span style=3D" font-family:'tahoma'; font-size: 10pt;">Tanstaafl,<br>
<br>
<span style=3D" font-family:'courier new'; font-size: 9pt; color: #800000;"=
><b>&gt; On 12/20/2017, 11:27:48 AM, Gleason &lt;</b></span></span><a style=
=3D" font-family:'courier new'; font-size: 9pt;" href=3D"mailto:sombrero@mm=
.st">[email protected]</a><span style=3D" font-family:'courier new'; font-size=
: 9pt; color: #800000;"><b>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; The list is properly configured with list headers, which is wh=
at any<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; sane client should use to determine List Replies with a single=
 click.<br>
<br>
<span style=3D" color: #800080;">&gt;&gt; Yet every single one of them does=
 it wrong in my tests here<br>
&gt;&gt; thunderbird<br>
<br>
<span style=3D" color: #800000;">&gt; As I said, it works perfectly for me =
in TB, so not sure what are you<br>
&gt; doing wrong - probably not using the Smart Reply button (or CTRL+SHIFT=
+L<br>
&gt; for Reply to List, which does nothing if there are no List headers).<b=
r>
<br>
</span></span></b><span style=3D" font-family:'Tahoma'; font-size: 10pt; co=
lor: #000000;">No. &nbsp;And I said, this is not only Thunderbird.<br>
<br>
<span style=3D" font-family:'courier new'; font-size: 9pt; color: #800080;"=
><b>&gt;&gt; Note that Pegasus does allow a choice of quote or not, and doe=
s<br>
&gt;&gt; allow you to choose reply address. &nbsp;But no box is prechecked,=
 and if<br>
&gt;&gt; you close the window without choosing, yup, the default is direct<=
br>
&gt;&gt; address to the the person.<br>
<br>
<span style=3D" color: #800000;">&gt; TB has a 'Smart Reply' button that au=
tomatically replies to list when<br>
&gt; list headers are present - if not, then it replies to the sender, or<b=
r>
&gt; whatever is in the 'Reply-To' field, if non-empty.<br>
<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; As to what to quote - in TB, all you do is select/highlight wh=
at you<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; want to quote before replying. Can't get any simpler than that=
.<br>
<br>
<span style=3D" color: #800080;">&gt;&gt; You really are a Thunderbird evan=
gelist aren't you?<br>
<br>
<span style=3D" color: #800000;">&gt; Nope, just a happy end user pointing =
out an excellent and very simple<br>
&gt; feature that most other clients don't have.<br>
<br>
<span style=3D" color: #800080;">&gt;&gt; Why are you here?<br>
<br>
<span style=3D" color: #800000;">&gt; Signed up to the list a long time ago=
 when researching alternatives to<br>
&gt; TB when I thought it might die when Mozilla all but abandoned it<br>
&gt; (happily, it is doing better than ever since then).<br>
<br>
&gt; &nbsp;Hoping to pick up a few new Thunderbird users? &nbsp;Why would y=
ou<br>
<span style=3D" color: #800080;">&gt;&gt; care?<br>
<br>
<span style=3D" color: #800000;">&gt; I don't... not sure why you seem to c=
are so much.<br>
<br>
</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></b><span style=3D" font-f=
amily:'Tahoma'; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;">Then maybe you could give=
 up on the evangelism. &nbsp;Email clients being a subjective, very<br>
personal choice, after all.<br>
<br>
Why do I care? &nbsp;Because it looks to me like the demise of Mulberry was=
 a great loss. &nbsp;And high<br>
quality email clients are important to me. &nbsp;I long ago gave up on hopi=
ng for a miracle though.<br>
<br>
The truth is that online communication has left email clients behind. &nbsp=
;Too difficult to do well,<br>
and too difficult to configure if done well. &nbsp;Users and programmers ha=
ve agreed there<br>
are less troublesome ways. &nbsp;A web interface with no user setup was pre=
ferred. &nbsp;And this is the age<br>
of the mobile device, with again, very simple interface and minimal setup.<=
br>
<br>
I am a dinosaur. &nbsp;I refuse to carry a cell phone or use webmail.<br>
<br>
<span style=3D" font-family:'arial'; font-size: 9pt; color: #c0c0c0;"><i>--=
 <br>
<br>
Gleason</body></html>
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