Re: [PATCH] Change <delete> to delete forward in the editor menu.

Jim via Mutt-dev <[email protected]> Sat, 1 Aug 2026 21:53:37 -0300
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On Sat, Aug  1, 2026 at 21:47 (-0300), Jim wrote:

> On Sat, Aug  1, 2026 at 18:34 (-0400), Kurt Hackenberg wrote:

>> On Sat, Aug 01, 2026 at 18:05 -0300, Jim via Mutt-dev wrote:

>>>> Moreover, Jim also said that the Delete key of
>>>> his keyboard sends ^H (instead of the usual escape sequence).

>>> Or so says my shell when I type Ctrl-V <delete key>.

>> That's with X and a terminal emulator?

> Yes.  Specifically, urxvt.  Same in xterm.

>> That is peculiar. I would look into why that ^H happens.  Something
>> strange in X keyboard input, I guess.  Do you configure that keyboard
>> input in any way, maybe through xmodmap?

> No.  A few messages ago (I didn't realize my ideas about "delete" meaning
> "delete backwards" were going to take on a life of their own) I mentioned
> that back in 2004 I used to swap backspace and delete with xmodmap, but
> since then I haven't had to do it.  I may have known at the time what
> changed, but if I did, that memory is long gone.

>> What does xev say about the Delete key?

> It says

> KeyPress event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x5200001,
> root 0x6ab, subw 0x0, time 607437571, (105,127), root:(286,252),
> state 0x0, keycode 119 (keysym 0xffff, Delete), same_screen YES,
> XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (7f) "=7F"
> XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (7f) "=7F"
> XFilterEvent returns: False

> which makes a certain amount of sense (to me, anyway): the "delete" key
> sends the "Delete" keysym and XLookupString turns that into the ASCII DEL
> character.


> Bonus information:

> My termlib entry says  kdch1=3D\E[3~.

> Interestingly (or not) with xfce4-terminal, at my shell prompt,
> Ctrl-V <delete>
> outputs <Esc>[3~, and kdch1 is the same \E[3~ there.

"Mystery" (partially?) solved.  I see that (presumably since 2004 or so) I
have X resources for xterm
        XTerm*backspacekey:	\177
        XTerm*deletekey:	\010
and
        URxvt.deletekey:	\010
(No URxvt.backspacekey, but at least this explains why I get ^H and not
\E[3~ when I press the "delete" key.)

                                Jim