Re: Routing solution on mail servers with all domain pointing at the same externel IP
Stephen Liu <[email protected]>
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--- Gustavo Luiz Duarte <[email protected]> wrote: > I suppose IMAP4_FLAGS="-m /etc/perdition_lookup.gdbm.db --query_key > '\d ' " Edit /etc/default/perdition xen11:~# cat /etc/default/perdition | grep IMAP4_FLAGS # by POP3_FLAGS, POP3S_FLAGS, IMAP4_FLAGS or IMAP4S_FLAGS IMAP4_FLAGS="-m /etc/perdition_lookup.gdbm.db --query_key '\d' " xen11:~# /etc/init.d/perdition restart Stopped /usr/sbin/perdition.pop3 (pid 3458). No /usr/sbin/perdition.pop3s found running; none killed. No /usr/sbin/perdition.imap4 found running; none killed. No /usr/sbin/perdition.imaps found running; none killed. Starting /usr/sbin/perdition.pop3... Starting /usr/sbin/perdition.pop3s... Starting /usr/sbin/perdition.imap4... Starting /usr/sbin/perdition.imaps... xen11:~# echo "tag login [email protected] mypasswd" | nc xen11.satimis.com 143 * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 UIDPLUS CHILDREN NAMESPACE THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT THREAD=REFERENCES SORT QUOTA AUTH=CRAM-MD5 AUTH=CRAM-SHA1IDLE ACL ACL2=UNION STARTTLS] Courier-IMAP ready. Copyright 1998-2005 Double Precision, Inc. See COPYING for distribution information. tag NO Login failed. hanging here. xen11:~# tail /var/log/mail.log Dec 3 15:58:01 xen11 imapd: LOGIN: ip=[::ffff:192.168.0.211], [email protected] Dec 3 15:58:01 xen11 imapd: LOGIN: ip=[::ffff:192.168.0.211], password=mypasswd Dec 3 15:58:01 xen11 authdaemond: received auth request, service=imap, authtype=login Dec 3 15:58:01 xen11 authdaemond: authmysql: trying this module Dec 3 15:58:01 xen11 authdaemond: SQL query: SELECT id, "", clear, uid, gid, home, concat(home,'/',maildir), "", name, "" FROM usersWHERE id = "[email protected]" AND (enabled=1) Dec 3 15:58:01 xen11 authdaemond: supplied password does not match clearpasswd Dec 3 15:58:01 xen11 authdaemond: authmysql: REJECT - try next module Dec 3 15:58:01 xen11 authdaemond: FAIL, all modules rejected Dec 3 15:58:01 xen11 imapd: LOGIN FAILED, [email protected], ip=[::ffff:192.168.0.211] Dec 3 15:58:21 xen11 imapd: Disconnected, ip=[::ffff:192.168.0.211], time=20 Still fail B.R. Stephen L > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 00:30, Stephen Liu <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > --- Gustavo Luiz Duarte <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> You are not supplying the necessary options: -m and --query_key. > >> You can set it by command line parameter or in > >> /etc/perdition/perdition.conf (maybe /etc/defaults too) > > > > > > Hi Gustavo, > > > > > > Please advise how to set them on /etc/default/perdition. > > > > > > cat /etc/default/perdition > > > ###################################################################### > > # /etc/sysconfig/perdition (RPM based systems) > > # /etc/default/perdition (Debian) > > # > > # Run time configuration parameters for perdition > > > ###################################################################### > > > > # Run perdition > > # Set to "yes" to run perdition > > # Set to any other value to not run perdition > > RUN_PERDITION=yes > > > > # Command line parameters to pass to perdition when run in any > mode. > > # This is in addition to any mode specific flags. > > # That is, it is in addtion to any command line options supplied > > # by POP3_FLAGS, POP3S_FLAGS, IMAP4_FLAGS or IMAP4S_FLAGS > > #FLAGS= > > > > # Run an instance of perdition in POP3 mode > > # Set to "yes" to run this instance of perdition > > # Set to any other valye to not run this instance of perdition > > POP3=yes > > > > #Command line parameters to pass to perdition when run in POP3 mode > > POP3_FLAGS= > > > > # Run an instance of perdition in POP3S mode > > # Set to "yes" to run this instance of perdition > > # Set to any other valye to not run this instance of perdition > > POP3S=yes > > > > #Command line parameters to pass to perdition when run in POP3S > mode > > POP3S_FLAGS= > > > > # Run an instance of perdition in IMAP4 mode > > # Set to "yes" to run this instance of perdition > > # Set to any other valye to not run this instance of perdition > > IMAP4=yes > > > > #Command line parameters to pass to perdition when run in IMAP4 > mode > > IMAP4_FLAGS= > > > > # Run an instance of perdition in IMAP4S mode > > # Set to "yes" to run this instance of perdition > > # Set to any other valye to not run this instance of perdition > > IMAP4S=yes > > > > #Command line parameters to pass to perdition when run in IMAP4S > mode > > IMAP4S_FLAGS= > > * end * > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > > > B.R. > > Stephen L > > > > > > > > > >> >> For some reason I was thinking about the hints I gave you and > >> >> realized > >> >> I made a mistake. I forgot to mention that your client needs to > >> use > >> >> the domain while authenticating. So the test would be: > >> >> > >> >> $ echo "tag login username@domain password" | nc perdition_host > >> 143 > >> >> > >> >> Without the domain (as I had written) perdition cannot resolve > >> which > >> >> server to connect. > >> > > >> > > >> > Tried again. > >> > > >> > > >> > xen11:~# /etc/init.d/perdition restart > >> > Stopped /usr/sbin/perdition.pop3 (pid 2878). > >> > No /usr/sbin/perdition.pop3s found running; none killed. > >> > No /usr/sbin/perdition.imap4 found running; none killed. > >> > No /usr/sbin/perdition.imaps found running; none killed. > >> > /usr/sbin/perdition.pop3 already running. > >> > Starting /usr/sbin/perdition.pop3s... > >> > Starting /usr/sbin/perdition.imap4... > >> > Starting /usr/sbin/perdition.imaps... > >> > > >> > > >> > xen11:~# echo "tag login [email protected] x10satimis" | nc > >> > xen11.satimis.com 143 > >> > * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 UIDPLUS CHILDREN NAMESPACE > >> > THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT THREAD=REFERENCES SORT QUOTA AUTH=CRAM-MD5 > >> > AUTH=CRAM-SHA1 IDLE ACL ACL2=UNION STARTTLS] Courier-IMAP ready. > >> > Copyright 1998-2005 Double Precision, Inc. See COPYING for > >> > distribution information. > >> > tag NO Login failed. > >> > > >> > > >> > Hanging here. I have to exit it manually with [Ctrl]+c > >> > > >> > > >> > xen11:~# tail /var/log/mail.log > >> > Dec 3 14:37:01 xen11 imapd: LOGIN: ip=[::ffff:192.168.0.211], > >> > [email protected] > >> > Dec 3 14:37:01 xen11 imapd: LOGIN: ip=[::ffff:192.168.0.211], > >> > password=mypasswd > >> > Dec 3 14:37:01 xen11 authdaemond: received auth request, > >> service=imap, > >> > authtype=login > >> > Dec 3 14:37:01 xen11 authdaemond: authmysql: trying this module > >> > Dec 3 14:37:01 xen11 authdaemond: SQL query: SELECT id, "", > clear, > >> > uid, gid, home, concat(home,'/',maildir), "", name, "" FROM > users > >> WHERE > >> > id = "[email protected]" AND (enabled=1) > >> > Dec 3 14:37:01 xen11 authdaemond: supplied password does not > match > >> > clearpasswd > >> > Dec 3 14:37:01 xen11 authdaemond: authmysql: REJECT - try next > >> module > >> > Dec 3 14:37:01 xen11 authdaemond: FAIL, all modules rejected > >> > Dec 3 14:37:02 xen11 imapd: LOGIN FAILED, > >> [email protected], > >> > ip=[::ffff:192.168.0.211] > >> > Dec 3 14:37:20 xen11 imapd: Disconnected, > >> ip=[::ffff:192.168.0.211], > >> > time=19 > >> > > >> > > >> > Still fail. > >> > > >> > > >> > B.R. > >> > Stephen L > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 15:49, Gustavo Luiz Duarte > >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 15:27, Stephen Liu <[email protected]> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> --- Gustavo Luiz Duarte <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 12:05, Stephen Liu > <[email protected]> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> >>> > Hi Gustavo, > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > I'll make 2 tests; > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > 1) > >> >> >>> > test1 - USING TEXT FILE > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > 2) > >> >> >>> > test2 - USING MYSQL > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > I have cloned an image of the routing mail server for > test2. > >> >> Now > >> >> >>> > proceed test1 first. > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > --- Gustavo Luiz Duarte <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> >> Hi Stephen, > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> You could use the transport table if the string "smtp:" > >> wasn't > >> >> >>> there. > >> >> >>> >> Do you really want to use mysql for the lookup? If you > have > >> >> only 3 > >> >> >>> >> domain you could use a text file. > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> USING TEXT FILE: > >> >> >>> >> $ cat << END > /etc/perdition_lookup.txt > >> >> >>> >> satimis.dnsalias.com:192.168.0.209 > >> >> >>> >> satimis.changeip.net:192.168.0.208 > >> >> >>> >> satimis.com:192.168.0.210 > >> >> >>> >> END > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> $ makegdbm /etc/perdition_lookup.gdbm.db < > >> >> >>> /etc/perdition_lookup.txt > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> $ perdition -m /etc/perdition_lookup.gdbm.db --query_key > >> "\d" > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > Package installed - perdition-mysql > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > # apt-cache policy perdition-mysql > >> >> >>> > perdition-mysql: > >> >> >>> > Installed: 1.17-7etch1 > >> >> >>> > Candidate: 1.17-7etch1 > >> >> >>> > Version table: > >> >> >>> > *** 1.17-7etch1 0 > >> >> >>> > 500 http://ftp.au.debian.org etch/main Packages > >> >> >>> > 500 http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main > >> >> Packages > >> >> >>> > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > # cat << END > /etc/perdition_lookup.txt > >> >> >>> >> satimis.dnsalias.com:192.168.0.209 > >> >> >>> >> satimis.changeip.net:192.168.0.208 > >> >> >>> >> satimis.com:192.168.0.210 > >> >> >>> >> END > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > # which makegdbm > >> >> >>> > /usr/bin/makegdbm > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > # which perdition > >> >> >>> > /usr/sbin/perdition > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > # makegdbm /etc/perdition_lookup.gdbm.db < > >> >> >>> /etc/perdition_lookup.txt > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > # perdition -m /etc/perdition_lookup.gdbm.db --query_key > >> "\d" > >> >> >>> > both without complaint > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > Now I haven't figured out how to test perdition. There > are > >> 2 > >> >> >>> databases > >> >> >>> > running on this routing mail server, MySQL maildb and > >> >> >>> > perdition_lookup.gdbm.db. Do I need to stop MySQL maildb > to > >> >> test > >> >> >>> > perdition? How can the remote mail clients connect their > >> mail > >> >> >>> servers? > >> >> >>> > What server settings shall I use? Please shed me some > >> light. > >> >> TIA > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> No need for stopping you MySQL. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> If everything is wright (I haven't tested, I can have > skipped > >> >> >>> something), you can point your mail clients to the hostname > >> where > >> >> >>> perdition is installed and use it normally. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Sorry I can't resolve how can the mail client (Evolution) > find > >> its > >> >> >> server over Internet with following settings; > >> >> > > >> >> > The mail client doesn't know wich server to use. It always > use > >> the > >> >> > routing server. The routing server redirects it to the > correct > >> imap > >> >> > server. Make sure your are using the right protocol imap4 or > >> >> imap4s. > >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Server Type: IMAP > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Server : xen11.satimis.com (hostname of the routing mail > server > >> >> where > >> >> >> perdition is running > >> >> >> > >> >> >> User: satimis > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> satimis is user of satimis.com, satimis.changeip.net and > >> >> >> satimis.dnsalias.com as well as user of the routing mail > >> server, > >> >> >> xen11.satimis.com > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I tried it without success. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> Note that perdition's default protocol is pop3. To use imap > >> suply > >> >> the > >> >> >>> option -P IMAP4 > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> xen11:~# /etc/init.d/perdition start > >> >> >> /usr/sbin/perdition.pop3 already running. > >> >> >> Starting /usr/sbin/perdition.pop3s... > >> >> >> Starting /usr/sbin/perdition.imap4... > >> >> >> Starting /usr/sbin/perdition.imaps... > >> >> > > >> >> > How are you configuring perdition? Have you modified your > >> >> > /etc/init.d/perdition script to contain the correct > parameters? > >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> xen11:~# hostname > >> >> >> xen11.satimis.com > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> pop3 is already running. I have to manually run > >> >> /etc/init.d/perdition > >> >> >> to start pop3s, imap4 and imaps > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> You can use nc to test it: > >> >> >>> $ echo "tag login username password" | nc perdition_host > 143 > >> >> >>> In username and password you use valid username and > password > >> for > >> >> your > >> >> >>> real imap server. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I suppose running above command on the routing mail server > >> where > >> >> >> perdition is installed. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> # echo "tag login satimis mypassword" | nc xen11.satimis.com > >> 143 > >> >> >> * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 UIDPLUS CHILDREN NAMESPACE > >> >> >> THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT THREAD=REFERENCES SORT QUOTA > >> AUTH=CRAM-MD5 > >> >> >> AUTH=CRAM-SHA1 IDLE ACL ACL2=UNION STARTTLS] Courier-IMAP > >> ready. > >> >> >> Copyright 1998-2005 Double Precision, Inc. See COPYING > >> >> fordistribution > >> >> >> information. > >> >> >> tag NO Login failed. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> For pop3: > >> >> >>> $ echo -e "user username\npass password | nc perdition_host > >> 110 > >> >> >> > >> >> >> xen11:~# echo -e "user satimis\npass x11satimis | nc > >> >> xen11.satimis.com > >> >> >> 110 > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> waiting for input > >> >> > > >> >> > You can look at perdition logs to find information about what > is > >> >> going on. > >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> No special configuration is need for your pop/imap servers. > >> Just > >> >> >>> assure that they are listening on standard ports. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I have only ONE external IP. All ports are forwarded to the > >> >> routing > >> >> >> mail server except port 53. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> B.R. > >> >> >> Stephen L > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> []'s > >> >> >>> Gustavo Duarte > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > B.R. > >> >> >>> > Stephen > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> USING MYSQL: > >> >> >>> >> You have some alternatives: > >> >> >>> >> 1. Continue with your tblPerdition and populate it, so > that > >> >> user > >> >> >>> >> column has the domain, hostname column has the localIP > and > >> >> port > >> >> >>> >> column > >> >> >>> >> you leave empty (supposing your real pop/imap servers > >> listen > >> >> to > >> >> >>> >> standard ports). > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> Then you would do (supposing you have mysql perdition > >> library > >> >> in > >> >> >>> >> /usr/lib): > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> perdition -M /usr/lib/libperditiondb_mysql.so.0 > --query_key > >> >> "\d" > >> >> >>> -m > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> > "<dbhost>:<dbport>:dbPerdition:tblPerdition:perdition:perdition" > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> (substituting <dbhost> and <dbport> by you db hostname > and > >> >> port) > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> 2. Modify your transport table so that the string smtp > and > >> >> localIP > >> >> >>> >> are > >> >> >>> >> in diferent columns. Then you create a view > concatenating > >> them > >> >> for > >> >> >>> >> the > >> >> >>> >> postfix query. A bit more complicated but easier to > >> maintain > >> >> when > >> >> >>> you > >> >> >>> >> have lots of domains and servers. > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> []'s > >> >> >>> >> Gustavo Duarte > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 02:28, Stephen Liu > >> <[email protected]> > >> >> >>> wrote: > >> >> >>> >> > Hi Gustavo, > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> >> The URL I sent you has information about using mysql > as > >> >> lookup > >> >> >>> >> >> library: > >> >> >>> >> >> > >> http://www.vergenet.net/linux/perdition/perditiondb.5.shtml > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > I suppose you're referring to following section; > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > MYSQL > >> >> >>> >> > This map library can be used by specifying the full > path > >> to > >> >> the > >> >> >>> >> library > >> >> >>> >> > using the -M|--map_library command line option or > >> >> configuration > >> >> >>> >> file > >> >> >>> >> > option. > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > E.g. > >> >> >>> >> > perdition -M /usr/lib/libperditiondb_mysql.so.0 > >> >> >>> >> > ...... > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > I'll start from there. > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > I suppose the name of this database is "dbPerdition" > to > >> be > >> >> >>> created > >> >> >>> >> on > >> >> >>> >> > MySQL > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > mysql> create database dbPerdition; > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > mysql> GRANT SELECT,INSERT,UPDATE,DELETE,CREATE,DROP > >> >> >>> >> > -> ON dbPerdition.* TO 'perdition' IDENTIFIED by > >> >> 'perdition'; > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > the 1st "perdition" on above second line is "database > >> user". > >> >> >>> The > >> >> >>> >> 2nd > >> >> >>> >> > "perdition" is "database password". > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > mysql> CREATE TABLE `tblPerdition` ( > >> >> >>> >> > -> `user` varchar(128), null '' default '', > >> >> >>> >> > -> `servername` varchar(255) null '' default '', > >> >> >>> >> > -> `port` varchar(8) YES NULL, > >> >> >>> >> > -> PRIMARY KEY (`user`), > >> >> >>> >> > -> ) ; > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > Afterwards I'll edit data on 'tblPerdition" table. > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> >> The table you've shown doesn't have information about > >> the > >> >> >>> >> >> hostnames/localIPs. Where is it? In the transport > table? > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > Yes. > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > mysql> SELECT * from transport; > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > > +------+----------------------+--------------------+-----------+---------+ > >> >> >>> >> > | pkid | domain | hostname | > >> >> transport | > >> >> >>> >> > enabled | > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > > +------+----------------------+--------------------+-----------+---------+ > >> >> >>> >> > | 1 | satimis.dnsalias.com | smtp:192.168.0.209 | > :[] > >> >> | > >> >> >>> >> > 1 | > >> >> >>> >> > | 2 | satimis.changeip.net | smtp:192.168.0.208 | > :[] > >> >> | > >> >> >>> >> > 1 | > >> >> >>> >> > | 3 | satimis.com | smtp:192.168.0.210 | > :[] > >> >> | > >> >> >>> >> > 1 | > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > > +------+----------------------+--------------------+-----------+---------+ > >> >> >>> >> > 3 rows in set (0.00 sec) > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > # cat /etc/postfix/mysql_transport_maps.cf > >> >> >>> >> > user=mail > >> >> >>> >> > password=mypassword > >> >> >>> >> > dbname=maildb > >> >> >>> >> > table=transport > >> >> >>> >> > select_field=hostname > >> >> >>> >> > where_field=domain > >> >> >>> >> > hosts=127.0.0.1 > >> >> >>> >> > additional_conditions = and enabled = 1 > >> >> >>> >> > * end * > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> >> I've never used mysql to do it, so I don't know the > >> >> details > >> >> >>> and > >> >> >>> >> how > >> >> >>> >> >> flexible it is. Maybe you'll need to create a view in > >> your > >> >> >>> >> database > >> >> >>> >> >> for the perdition lookup with the domain as key and > the > >> >> localIP > >> >> >>> as > >> >> >>> >> >> value. > >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> Unfortunately I don't have any example. But the two > URLs > >> I > >> >> sent > >> >> >>> >> you > >> >> >>> >> >> have all information you need. In particular, look at > >> >> >>> --query_key > >> >> >>> >> >> option and mysql database access library. > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > Whether you meant "--query_key FORMAT[,FORMAT...]:" > on; > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > > http://www.vergenet.net/linux/perdition/perdition.8.shtml > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > Thanks > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > B.R. > >> >> >>> >> > Stephen L > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > Send instant messages to your online friends > >> >> >>> >> http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > >> >> >>> >> > ______________________________________________ > >> >> >>> >> > Perdition-users mailing list > >> >> >>> >> > [email protected] > >> >> >>> >> > http://lists.vergenet.net/listinfo/perdition-users > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > Send instant messages to your online friends > >> >> >>> http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > >> >> >>> > ______________________________________________ > >> >> >>> > Perdition-users mailing list > >> >> >>> > [email protected] > >> >> >>> > http://lists.vergenet.net/listinfo/perdition-users > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Send instant messages to your online friends > >> >> http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > >> >> >> ______________________________________________ > >> >> >> Perdition-users mailing list > >> >> >> [email protected] > >> >> >> http://lists.vergenet.net/listinfo/perdition-users > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > Send instant messages to your online friends > >> http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > >> > ______________________________________________ > >> > Perdition-users mailing list > >> > [email protected] > >> > http://lists.vergenet.net/listinfo/perdition-users > >> > > >> > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > ______________________________________________ > > Perdition-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.vergenet.net/listinfo/perdition-users > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ______________________________________________ Perdition-users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.vergenet.net/listinfo/perdition-users