Re: PINE problem

Bret Busby <[email protected]> Mon, 1 Feb 2010 14:51:07 +0800
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On 01/02/2010, RobertHoltzman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 01:53:23PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> >
>
>              ............snip.............
>
> > Please do not reply with "get rid of PINE and install ALPINE", as I am
> > familiar with PINE, and I do not know that ALPINE will work the same,
> > with the many folders and filters and other things implemented, and,
> > changing software can in itself, cause problems.
>
> When I switched from Pine to Alpine, Alpine not only used my existing
> ~/.pinerc file but it used my existing ~/mail directory with all its
> existing 30+ mail files.
>
> As far as your being familiar with Pine, you won't be able to tell the
> difference. Layout, commands, etc are the same.
>
>
> --
> Bob Holtzman
>
>
I have several hundred folders, at least two hundred filters, many with
screens of values, and, my mail directory shows with du -sh, as taking up
9.1GB. I am subscribed to somewhat over a hundred mailing lists, and am the
registered list administrator of about 25 mailing lists.

Using the <Page Down> key, to scroll through the list of mail directories,
it takes 170 key presses, with a 17" monitor, so the estimate, if that is 40
lines displayed per page, is about 6800 directories, under the mail
directory. If it is only 30 lines per screen, displayed, then it is still
5100 directories. I have just counted, and 41 lines of listed directories
are displayed, per screen. As the paging down, places the second-last line
on one screen, at the top of the next screen, I believe that it works out to
40 distinct lines listed, per screen.

In the circumstances, as it took me, how ever many years ago, quite a while
to end up with PINE as the only email application that could satisfactorily
handle what I wanted, I am quite wary about changing the email application.

A couple of years ago, when I did a Debian system upgrade, I lost about 20
years of genealogy research, which I have to sometime try to find whether I
can recover, if I can get a previous computer working again. And, the data
being lost, occurred in the backup procedure.

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Bret Busby
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<br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 01/02/2010, <b class=3D"gmail_s=
endername">RobertHoltzman</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">holtzm@=
cox.net</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"bor=
der-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-=
left: 1ex;">
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 01:53:23PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:<br> &gt;<br> <b=
r>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =
............snip.............<br> <br> &gt; Please do not reply with &quot;=
get rid of PINE and install ALPINE&quot;, as I am<br> &gt; familiar with PI=
NE, and I do not know that ALPINE will work the same,<br>
 &gt; with the many folders and filters and other things implemented, and,<=
br> &gt; changing software can in itself, cause problems.<br> <br> When I s=
witched from Pine to Alpine, Alpine not only used my existing<br> ~/.pinerc=
 file but it used my existing ~/mail directory with all its<br>
 existing 30+ mail files.<br> <br> As far as your being familiar with Pine,=
 you won&#39;t be able to tell the<br> difference. Layout, commands, etc ar=
e the same.<br> <br><br> --<br> Bob Holtzman<br> <br></blockquote></div>
<br>I have several hundred folders, at least two hundred filters, many with=
 screens of values, and, my mail directory shows with du -sh, as taking up =
9.1GB. I am subscribed to somewhat over a hundred mailing lists, and am the=
 registered list administrator of about 25 mailing lists.<br>
<br>Using the &lt;Page Down&gt; key, to scroll through the list of mail dir=
ectories, it takes 170 key presses, with a 17&quot; monitor, so the estimat=
e, if that is 40 lines displayed per page, is about 6800 directories, under=
 the mail directory. If it is only 30 lines per screen, displayed, then it =
is still 5100 directories. I have just counted, and 41 lines of listed dire=
ctories are displayed, per screen. As the paging down, places the second-la=
st line on one screen, at the top of the next screen, I believe that it wor=
ks out to 40 distinct lines listed, per screen.<br>
<br>In the circumstances, as it took me, how ever many years ago, quite a w=
hile to end up with PINE as the only email application that could satisfact=
orily handle what I wanted, I am quite wary about changing the email applic=
ation.<br>
<br>A couple of years ago, when I did a Debian system upgrade, I lost about=
 20 years of genealogy research, which I have to sometime try to find wheth=
er I can recover, if I can get a previous computer working again. And, the =
data being lost, occurred in the backup procedure.<br clear=3D"all">
<br>-- <br><br>Bret Busby<br>................

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