Re: Please fix obsolete address in http://www.procmail.org/era/lists.html

At 07:06 2013-06-16, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> > http://mailman.rwth-aachen.de/mailman/listinfo/procmail
> >
> > which also identifies a list administrator at the bottom of the page.
>
>Yes, Recursive Catch 22, one need to be on list to get that header,
>or find an owner address or subscribe mechanism detailed on web,
>but http://www.procmail.org/era/lists.html points at wrong address.

Many of the participants on this list have been on it for over a 
decade (and some have been using procmail for two or more), and thus 
would likely be fairlt oblivious to changes in how to get onto the 
list, not needing to do that themselves.

>Probably, I tried various addresses, all black holes bar one, but
>he/she's bound to be on this list too, & here cc'd [email protected].

The official listadmin for the procmail list is a staffer at the 
Univertify of Aachen, and happens to NOT be a participant on this 
list.  Of course, the official listadmin can't help anyone who isn't 
mailing the correct list/listadmin address, so they're not 
necessarily in a position to do much to resolve the problem at hand.

>(It's quite possible for a list to operate, yet a sub/unsub mechanism
>to be broken, but in this case once postmaster @ Aachen found
>right address, I subscribed via sub. mechanism, so that works
>too, so it seems to be just http://www.procmail.org needs fixing).

I have sent, under separate cover, correspondance to the two 
principals of procmail to suggest that the website and procmail 
manpages perhaps be updated.


Nominally, rather than accepting mail at 
[email protected], if the address is in fact 
defunct, an SMTP access rule can be set up for it (by an aachen mail 
admin) to bounce incoming messages with a reference to the new 
mailman interface.  No lost souls, no accumulation of messages in a 
box nobody has time to monitor.

>Postmaster @ Aachen is a she,  I got the impression from her that
>http://www.procmail.org pages were not her area.

The procmail website is wholly separate from the Aachen mailserver 
which graciously hosts the discussion list.  Note that the postmaster 
at Aachen isn't necessarily a mailman admin either.

>Please correct
>         [email protected]
>in
>         http://www.procmail.org/era/lists.html

FTR, the procmail _users_list_ does not manage the procmail website.

>Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com
>  Reply below not above, like a play script.  Indent old text with "> ".
>  Send plain text.  No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative.

Dang, I cut my reply to context and intermixed my responses.

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