Re: Where is the qmail Licence?

Andy Jackman <[email protected]> Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:26:50 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.mail.qmail.dist
Message-ID <[email protected]>
ROFL... I've heard someone say that recommending hex-change was a good
way to earn maintenance income on a weekly basis...

> "Wise, Jimmy" wrote:
> 
> Buy Microsoft Exchange 2003.  At least then you know you can't legally
> distribute or modify it.
> ;)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Louwers [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 9:52 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Where is the qmail Licence?
> 
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 08:38:03AM -0600, Charles Cazabon wrote:
> > Frank Louwers <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Not at all.  Spend a few hours reading the other documents at
> cr.yp.to;
> > > > other, legal questions are answered by asking a lawyer, not djb.
> 
> > >
> > > Yes, well. I've had my lawyer take at look at djb's sites a while
> ago.
> > > My lawyer said the are completely unclear, non-enforcable under
> Belgian
> > > law, and advised me not to do anything with this software :) I
> ignored
> > > his advise ...
> >
> > Hmmm.  If you don't trust the advice of your lawyer, perhaps you
> should get a
> > different lawyer.
> 
> Except for the "dist.html" file, every document relates to examples,
> laws, reports, ... under US law. Contrary to what quite some .us
> people
> think, US law != international law != BE law.
> 
> 
> > If the client has a legal copy of qmail already (i.e. downloaded it,
> or you
> > provided an unmodified tarball), and all you do is modify his copy
> for him,
> > that would appear to be the client paying you to modify his copy,
> which is a
> > right your client has according to djb.
> 
> what if I provide client with:
> - unmodified tarball
> - full source of patches
> - Makefile to turn the unmodified tarball + the source of the patches
>   into a binary package
> - modified binary package
> 
> but I install the modified bin package directly?
> 
> What if the client doesn't own the server? What if I sell the server +
> 
> setup to the client? What if I sell the server + the setup on 2
> separate
> invoices?
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Frank Louwers
> 
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