Re: Where is the qmail Licence?

On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 11:47:30AM +0000, Andy Jackman wrote:
> >> with no restrictions on its use
> There are also NO rights given on the site for you TO use it or copy it
> for your use. The default rights of any 'work' is that it is copyright
> (which, duh, means you CAN'T have the RIGHT to COPY it).

Dan gave me the right to copy it at http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html

> Unless djb gives you the right to own it or copy it then you may not
> copy it. 

http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html

> Where does he say you can copy it for your own use? He DOES give rights
> to 'distribute' it, but the normal definition of distribute EXCLUDES the
> right to 'use'. (Imagine a distributor of refrigerators that took each
> one home to 'use' before he 'distributed' it - that wouldn't impress
> many people. 

False analogy.  A refrigerator is not an original work of authorship.

> > We own it because Dan instructed his web server to give us copies
> Ho, ho ho. IBM instructs it's webservers to give us copies of pages, so
> you can copy them and make your own ibm web site and like, they won't
> sue you?

Another false analogy.  I can make copies of IBM's pages for my personal use.
Putting them up on a public web site would be distribution.

> Or someone's kazzaa peer gives you a copy of a song and so you have the
> right to 'use' it. ROFL. 

Unless the Kazaa peer was the original author of the song, and held the
copyright, it would be an illegal copy and I would have no rights.

> djb does not give you the right to own a copy of of qmail and therefore
> every copy you download is pirated. 

If you stopped acting like an idiot, then people on this list might take you
more seriously.

--Adam