Re: Re: faked from addresses getting through to my lists - problem and poss solution?

Phillip Sego <[email protected]> Thu, 09 Sep 2004 08:34:07 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.mail.smartlist.user
Organization 1805
Message-ID <173801c49669$ef1611f0$6500a8c0@PS1>
I've been dealing with this for a few months on a number of lists I manage,
as the Bagle virus picks up from lines from received emails on infected
computers. From the pattern, it doesn't seem to be an intentional attack
against listserves, it's just another #*!&^ virus.

My lists are newsletter-type (with a few approved posters on each). Outlook
and Outlook Express, in use by most folks, can't add custom headers. The
"Organization" field is now rarely used by folks. Therefore, if I can get
smartlist to look at this header field AND have the approved posters use,
e.g. the organization "1234", I can have only approved posts get thru my
lists.

But I'm not a programmer. I simply bludgeon smartlist into submission, which
is preety easy due to the many easy-to-change parameters.

Here's what I came up with:

Filename: rc.local.20

-------- cut here ---------
HEAD=`formail -zx Organization:`   # extract the header information
:0fw
* ^Organization:.*\[1234]\

-------- cut here ---------

Alas... it doesn't work. All posts go thru regardless of the contents of the
Organization field.

Any ideas?

-- Phil



> On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 02:42:32PM -0500, rgball wrote:
>
> >1) go through all the list's archives and match information in the
> bottom-most Received: line to
> >the subscriber's address. Keep all of this in a database (not the dist
> file).
>
> Can't rely on that. Received: lines can be faked, as long as they're
> below the point of injection into the system.
>
> If there's spoofing going on, the spoofers are presumably motivated to
> keep it happening.
>
> You could just rely on a valid PGP signature before passing on the
> message. But there are very few lists that do this, in large part
> because most people find PGP too hard to use.
>
> >It's still not going to be proof against a determined spoofer but should
> eliminate the casual
> >spammers.
>
> I first saw spam with fake Received: header lines some time around 1997.
>
> Roger
>