Re: Re: faked from addresses getting through to my lists - problem and poss solution?
Phillip Sego <[email protected]> Thu, 09 Sep 2004 08:34:07 -0400
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I've been dealing with this for a few months on a number of lists I manage, as the Bagle virus picks up from lines from received emails on infected computers. From the pattern, it doesn't seem to be an intentional attack against listserves, it's just another #*!&^ virus. My lists are newsletter-type (with a few approved posters on each). Outlook and Outlook Express, in use by most folks, can't add custom headers. The "Organization" field is now rarely used by folks. Therefore, if I can get smartlist to look at this header field AND have the approved posters use, e.g. the organization "1234", I can have only approved posts get thru my lists. But I'm not a programmer. I simply bludgeon smartlist into submission, which is preety easy due to the many easy-to-change parameters. Here's what I came up with: Filename: rc.local.20 -------- cut here --------- HEAD=`formail -zx Organization:` # extract the header information :0fw * ^Organization:.*\[1234]\ -------- cut here --------- Alas... it doesn't work. All posts go thru regardless of the contents of the Organization field. Any ideas? -- Phil > On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 02:42:32PM -0500, rgball wrote: > > >1) go through all the list's archives and match information in the > bottom-most Received: line to > >the subscriber's address. Keep all of this in a database (not the dist > file). > > Can't rely on that. Received: lines can be faked, as long as they're > below the point of injection into the system. > > If there's spoofing going on, the spoofers are presumably motivated to > keep it happening. > > You could just rely on a valid PGP signature before passing on the > message. But there are very few lists that do this, in large part > because most people find PGP too hard to use. > > >It's still not going to be proof against a determined spoofer but should > eliminate the casual > >spammers. > > I first saw spam with fake Received: header lines some time around 1997. > > Roger >