Re: [iserver] Active Spam Killer (ASK)

"Salvatore F. Iozzia" <[email protected]> Sat, 8 May 2004 21:43:20 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.mail.spam.active-spam-killer.general
Message-ID <228901c43567$01dc60a0$6501a8c0@Telios>
Im about to implement the ASK system on my server.

This is why:

1. I use an separate email ticket queue system to handle all my business
related email for support, sales, resellers, etc.
2. this leaves my personal email address available for direct contacts of
which I would have given my address out for a specific purpose.
3. ASK has addresses most if not all the issues, if newsletters, fake
replies, whitelist management etc.
4. ASK has a imanager like interface to viewing emails in the queue that are
awaiting approval.
5. unlike third party services, your sender does not have to click a link,
or see ads, or be prompted to buy anything. they just reply once to your
email and whamo they are whitelisted.
6. ASK has a nice support site and an active mail list
http://www.paganini.net/ask/
7. people are sick of spam and will be sympathetic to any reasonable action
requested of them to curb it
8. its free and runs on your server, its not a third party service that cost
your customers extra.
9 you can actually charge extra for it as a service :)
10 its optional like spamassassin each user has to turn it on and figure out
how to use it

the only reason I have not done it yet  is I have not had the time to
implement it. Im a vinstall kinda guy when it comes to these kinds of
things. I don't like the idea of breaking my mail server while install
something. So I am going to pay to have it implemented to a secondary VPS.

the web interface is written in perl and look ALOT like Imanager I will
integrating the two at some time in the future.

For the record, I believe that challenge response systems are the best way
to handle email delivery in conjunction with new SMTP authentication which
is years off from being standard. Basically, each piece of mail should be
traceable back to a valid recipient.

Anyone using IM to collaborate knows that whitelist are easy to manage based
on the fact that a buddy list or address book is essentially whitelist.




Regards,

Salvatore F. Iozzia
accelerator/owner
Chain Reaction Web  -  www.chainreactionweb.com
Toll Free (866) 437-1585  -  Support [email protected]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Lock" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [iserver] Active Spam Killer (ASK)


> At 10:30 AM 5/7/2004 -0700, you wrote:
> >not having looked at ASK, here's an email I wrote on Challenge-Response
> >systems when someone brought up Spam Arrest:
>
> That pretty much covers the highlights, thanks for posting it again.  I
> have had a number of customers request a challenge/response solution to
cut
> down on the spam load.  Based on responses like yours, I have convinced
> them the cure may be worse than the disease.  I agree, a good filtering
> system overseen by humans is still the better solution.
>
> Cheers!
>
> John Lock - VP, Technology
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