Re: Birlesmis Milletler nternet Yonetisimi uzerine calsiam grubu Kurdu (fwd)

Merhabalar;

"Internet Governance" m=C4=B1? Devlet, Birle=C5=9Fmi=C5=9F Milletler fala=
n elini=20
internetten uzak tutsun yeter. E=C4=9Fer internet, bizim meclisimizin bir=
 ara=20
denedi=C4=9Fi gibi "Bas=C4=B1n yasas=C4=B1" -veya herkhangi bir yasa- ile=
 y=C3=B6netilen bir=20
medya olsayd=C4=B1, bug=C3=BCnk=C3=BC geli=C5=9Fimini g=C3=B6steremezdi. =
=C4=B0nternetin en =C3=B6nemli=20
fark=C4=B1, bireylerin uluslaras=C4=B1 camiada =C3=B6zg=C3=BCrce kendiler=
ini ifade=20
edebilmeleri, biraraya gelmeleri, ileti=C5=9Fim ve organizasyon=20
kurabilmeleridir...

Unutmay=C4=B1n=C4=B1z ki, =C4=B0nternet olmasa idi, internetten ileti=C5=9F=
im devlet=20
kontrol=C3=BC ve sans=C3=BCr=C3=BC i=C3=A7inde ancak izinle yasa ile vs i=
le yap=C4=B1labilse idi,=20
bug=C3=BCn ne Linux'u g=C3=B6r=C3=BCrd=C3=BCk ortada, ne bu kadar h=C4=B1=
zl=C4=B1 ticari geli=C5=9Fmeyi, ne=20
bir=C3=A7ok alternatif grubun bu kadar etkin =C3=B6rg=C3=BCtlenebilmesini=
 (Social Forum=20
gibi), ne de Amerika'n=C4=B1n 9/11 olay=C4=B1ndaki falsolar=C4=B1n=C4=B1 =
=C3=B6=C4=9Frenebilirdik=20
(http://www.unansweredquestions.org/)...

=C4=B0tiraf etmek gereken ilk nokta =C5=9Fu ki, =C3=B6nce =C4=B0nternet, =
sonra Linux ve a=C3=A7=C4=B1k=20
kaynak yaz=C4=B1l=C4=B1m, tepeden "Devlet" veya "B=C3=BCy=C3=BCk =C5=9Eir=
ket" mant=C4=B1=C4=9F=C4=B1 ile=20
y=C3=B6netilmeden, y=C3=B6netilen di=C4=9Fer b=C3=BCt=C3=BCn projelerden =
kat kar daha ba=C5=9Far=C4=B1l=C4=B1=20
olmu=C5=9F projelerdir. =C3=87a=C4=9F art=C4=B1k "tepeden inme bask=C4=B1=
c=C4=B1 y=C3=B6netimlerin" de=C4=9Fil,=20
=C3=B6zg=C3=BCrce biraraya gelen insanlar=C4=B1n g=C3=B6n=C3=BCll=C3=BC i=
=C5=9Fbirli=C4=9Finin =C3=A7a=C4=9F=C4=B1d=C4=B1r...

=C3=96nce bunu kabul etmek gerekiyor. G=C3=B6n=C3=BCll=C3=BC ileti=C5=9Fi=
m ve i=C5=9Fbirli=C4=9Finin=20
g=C3=BCc=C3=BCn=C3=BCn yan=C4=B1nda, devletlerin de, =C5=9Firketlerin de,=
 BM'in de, g=C3=BCc=C3=BC=20
zay=C4=B1fl=C4=B1yor... Bunlar, herhalde BM'in son =C3=A7=C4=B1rp=C4=B1n=C4=
=B1=C5=9Flar=C4=B1...

Unutmay=C4=B1n, devletler, bireylerin =C3=B6zg=C3=BCr olmas=C4=B1n=C4=B1 =
de=C4=9Fil, kendi kontrol=C3=BCnde=20
olmas=C4=B1n=C4=B1 ister. E=C4=9Fer aksi olursa, devlete gerek kalmaz. Ve=
ya serbest=20
piyasadaki hizmet sa=C4=9Flay=C4=B1c=C4=B1lar gibi, rekabet etmek zorunda=
 kal=C4=B1rlar. Ve=20
bu da, tepede g=C3=BCc=C3=BC elinde tutan kesimin tekelci g=C3=BCc=C3=BCn=
=C3=BC yitirmesi=20
anlam=C4=B1na gelir ki, bunu istemezler. (Okuyunuz: Atlas Vazge=C3=A7ti, =
Ayn Rand)

=C4=B0nternet, d=C3=BC=C5=9F=C3=BCnce ve ifade =C3=B6zg=C3=BCrl=C3=BC=C4=9F=
=C3=BC, sans=C3=BCrden ve denetimden=20
ba=C4=9F=C4=B1ms=C4=B1zl=C4=B1k olmadan, b=C3=BCt=C3=BCn anlam=C4=B1n=C4=B1=
 yitirir, tekelci b=C3=BCy=C3=BCk medyaya d=C3=B6ner...
(Destekliyorum: www.eff.org )

Aran=C4=B1zda, "her=C5=9Feyi devlet kontrol etsin, b=C3=B6ylece b=C3=BCt=C3=
=BCn su=C3=A7lar=C4=B1 =C3=B6nleriz,=20
=C4=B0nternet'de kontrols=C3=BCz ileti=C5=9Fim ve A=C3=A7=C4=B1k Kaynak Y=
az=C4=B1l=C4=B1m, faydadan =C3=A7ok=20
zarar getiriyor, devlet kontrol edip cezaland=C4=B1rmazsa, bundan b=C3=BC=
t=C3=BCn=20
toplum zarar g=C3=B6r=C3=BCr, =C5=9Fu haliyle hepsinden tamamen vazge=C3=A7=
sek daha iyi"=20
diyen var m=C4=B1? Varsa size soru: Devleti (bek=C3=A7iyi) kim kontrol ed=
ecek?

Soru: =C4=B0nternet, Irak'da, hem Saddam'=C4=B1n bask=C4=B1lar=C4=B1na ka=
r=C5=9F=C4=B1, =C3=B6zg=C3=BCrl=C3=BC=C4=9F=C3=BC ve=20
demokrasiyi savunmak i=C3=A7in bir ileti=C5=9Fim arac=C4=B1 olarak kullan=
=C4=B1ld=C4=B1, hem de=20
=C5=9Fu anda Amerkan g=C3=BC=C3=A7lerinin i=C5=9Fgaline kar=C5=9F=C4=B1 d=
ireni=C5=9Fciler i=C3=A7in bir ileti=C5=9Fim=20
arac=C4=B1 olarak kullan=C4=B1l=C4=B1yor. T=C4=B1pk=C4=B1 telefonun, mekt=
ubun, telgraf=C4=B1n,=20
telsizin, k=C4=B1saca her ileti=C5=9Fim arac=C4=B1n=C4=B1n, hem normal ve=
 iyi, hem de su=C3=A7=20
unsuru ve k=C3=B6t=C3=BC olarak kullan=C4=B1m=C4=B1n=C4=B1n m=C3=BCmk=C3=BC=
n oldu=C4=9Fu gibi... =C5=9Eimdi =C4=B0nternet=20
iyi mi k=C3=B6t=C3=BC m=C3=BC?

Aran=C4=B1zda, "b=C3=BCt=C3=BCn ileti=C5=9Fimi devlet kontrol etsin, yoks=
a su=C3=A7u =C3=B6nleyemeyiz"=20
diyen var m=C4=B1? Mesela bu email grubunu kurabilmek, =C3=BCye olabilmek=
, mesaj=20
g=C3=B6nderip alabilmek i=C3=A7in, devletten (mesela valilikten, savc=C4=B1=
l=C4=B1ktan) izin=20
alman=C4=B1n gerekti=C4=9Fi bir durumu tercih eden? B=C3=B6yle bir intern=
etin daha iyi=20
olaca=C4=9F=C4=B1n=C4=B1 savunan?

Dolay=C4=B1s=C4=B1 ile, spam i=C3=A7in olsun, =C3=A7ocuk pornosu i=C3=A7i=
n olsun, ne i=C3=A7in olursa=20
olsun, g=C3=B6n=C3=BCll=C3=BC bir =C3=A7aba gerekir... Bu su=C3=A7lar=C4=B1=
 sak=C4=B1ncalar=C4=B1, ancak=20
=C4=B0nternet'i hepbirlikte kurdu=C4=9Fumuz gibi, =C3=B6zg=C3=BCr i=C5=9F=
birli=C4=9Fi i=C3=A7inde=20
=C3=A7=C3=B6zebiliriz... Hepimizin davran=C4=B1=C5=9Flar=C4=B1ndan ba=C4=9F=
=C4=B1ms=C4=B1z bir internet sorunu=20
yok, bunu idrak etmeli =C3=B6nce..

Soru: =C3=96rne=C4=9Fin =C3=A7ocuk pornosu ve fuhu=C5=9Fun, internette ol=
sun, internet=20
d=C4=B1=C5=9F=C4=B1nda olsun, yasalar ve y=C3=B6netimle tamamen engellene=
bilmesi m=C3=BCmk=C3=BCn m=C3=BC?=20
T=C3=BCrkiye'de ka=C3=A7 Rus (Ukrayna Moldovya vs dahil) fahi=C5=9Fe var?=
 Bunlar=C4=B1n ka=C3=A7=20
m=C3=BC=C5=9Fterisi var? Yurtd=C4=B1=C5=9F=C4=B1na sex turizmi i=C3=A7in =
giden ka=C3=A7 ki=C5=9Fi var? Ge=C3=A7en=20
H=C3=BCrriyet'e bile =C3=A7=C4=B1kt=C4=B1 ... Bunlar yasal olarak ne kada=
r =C3=B6nlenebilir,=20
polisiye y=C3=B6ntemlerle, cezayla, bask=C4=B1yla? Toplumda bu cinsel a=C3=
=A7l=C4=B1k,=20
doyumsuzluk, tatminsizlik varken, ve medyayla da s=C3=BCrekli=20
k=C4=B1=C5=9Fk=C4=B1rt=C4=B1l=C4=B1rken... Neden insanlar=C4=B1n "normal"=
 yollardan cinselliklerini=20
tatmin edebilecekleri, cinselli=C4=9Fin korkulan de=C4=9Fil, bilin=C3=A7l=
i, sa=C4=9Fl=C4=B1kl=C4=B1,=20
keyifli bir =C5=9Fekilde ya=C5=9Fand=C4=B1=C4=9F=C4=B1 bir k=C3=BClt=C3=BC=
r ortam=C4=B1n=C4=B1 aileden ve okuldan=20
ba=C5=9Flayarak kurmak yerine, tatmin olmam=C4=B1=C5=9F insanlar =C3=A7=C4=
=B1k=C4=B1=C5=9F=C4=B1 fuhu=C5=9Fta=20
bulunca, polisiye =C3=B6nlemlere sar=C4=B1l=C4=B1yoruz?... Ve her=C5=9Fey=
 i=C3=A7in tek =C3=A7=C3=B6z=C3=BCm=C3=BC,=20
d=C4=B1=C5=9Far=C4=B1da birilerinin "yasa koymas=C4=B1ndan" "cezaland=C4=B1=
rmas=C4=B1ndan" bekliyoruz?=20
Yoksa, kendi sorumlulu=C4=9Fumuzu kabul etmekten mi ka=C3=A7=C4=B1yoruz?.=
.. Bu kadar=20
talep olmasa, bu "sekt=C3=B6r"ler olu=C5=9Fur muydu?

Neyse =C3=A7enem (parmaklar=C4=B1m?) d=C3=BC=C5=9Ft=C3=BC... Konuyu fazla=
 da=C4=9F=C4=B1tmayay=C4=B1m,=20
uzatmayay=C4=B1m...

=C3=96zetle sorunlar yasayla bask=C4=B1yla de=C4=9Fil, bizim bilin=C3=A7l=
i bir i=C5=9Fbirli=C4=9Fine=20
gitmemizle en iyi =C5=9Fekilde =C3=A7=C3=B6z=C3=BCl=C3=BCr inanc=C4=B1nda=
y=C4=B1m...

=C4=B0yi =C3=A7al=C4=B1=C5=9Fmalar,

=C3=96zer Tayiz.

Mustafa Akgul wrote:

>http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2004/pi1620.doc.htm
>
>11/11/2004
>Press Release
>PI/1620
>
>UNITED NATIONS ESTABLISHES WORKING GROUP ON INTERNET
>GOVERNANCE
>
>NEW YORK, 11 November (Working Group on Internet Governance) --
>Secretary-General Kofi Annan announced today the establishment
>of the Working Group on Internet Governance.  The Working Group
>will prepare the ground for a decision on this issue by the
>second phase of the World Summit on the Information Society, to
>be held in Tunis in November 2005.
>
>The Secretary-General was requested to establish a working group
>on Internet governance by the first phase of the World Summit on
>the Information Society held in Geneva in December 2003.  The
>task of this Working Group is to organize an open dialogue on
>Internet Governance, among all stakeholders, and to bring
>recommendations on this subject to the second phase of the
>Summit.
>
>
>The two documents adopted by the Geneva Summit -- the
>Declaration of Principles and the Plan of Action -- asked the
>Working Group =EF=BF=BDto investigate and make proposals for action,
>as appropriate, on the governance of the Internet by 2005=EF=BF=BD.
>
>The Group was requested to:
>
>-- Develop a working definition of Internet governance;
>
>-- Identify the public policy issues that are relevant to
>Internet governance; and
>
>-- Develop a common understanding of the respective roles and
>responsibilities of governments, international organizations and
>other forums, as well as the private sector and civil society
>from both developing and developed countries.
>
>The Working Group on Internet Governance will be chaired by
>Nitin Desai, Special Adviser to the Secretary-General for the
>World Summit.  It includes 40 members from governments, private
>sector and civil society, representing all regions (see the list
>below).
>
>=EF=BF=BDThe Working Group is not a negotiating forum=EF=BF=BD, said Mr.
>Desai.  =EF=BF=BDIts purpose is to facilitate the negotiations that
>will take place in Tunis.  We come into this process as
>facilitators, and will strive to establish a dialogue of good
>faith among all participants.=EF=BF=BD
>
>The two Summit documents call for an =EF=BF=BDopen and inclusive=EF=BF=BD
>process and =EF=BF=BDa mechanism for the full and active
>participation of governments, the private sector and civil
>society from both developing and developed countries, involving
>relevant intergovernmental and international organizations and
>forums=EF=BF=BD.  On the basis of these guidelines, the Working Group
>will hold regular consultations and will seek to make the best
>possible use of electronic working methods, including online
>consultations.
>
>The first meeting of the Working Group is scheduled to take
>place in Geneva from 23 to 25 November.  On 24 November, the
>meeting will be held in an open format, allowing all governments
>and other stakeholders to interact with the Working Group.
>
>=EF=BF=BDThere is a general convergence of views on the need to treat
>Internet governance from a broad perspective and to build on
>what has been done elsewhere=EF=BF=BD, said Markus Kummer, Executive
>Coordinator of the United Nations secretariat of the Working
>Group.  =EF=BF=BDIssues that we expect to address include the
>management of Internet resources, network security, cyber-crime,
>spam and multilingualism.=EF=BF=BD
>
>
>
>
>rt of the Working Group is expected to be submitted to the
>Secretary-General in July 2005 and will be made available to the
>WSIS second phase in Tunis.
>
>Contact:  in New York, Edoardo Bellando, tel.:  (212) 963-8275,
>e-mail:  [email protected]; in Geneva, Markus Kummer, tel.:  +41 0
>22 917 54 88, e-mail:  [email protected].  Web sites:
>www.wgig.org and www.un-wgig.org.
>