Re: how many bits / how to negotiate (Re: Re: stampcreation std. deviation)
"John Honan" <[email protected]> Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:20:33 -0500 (CDT)
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> Adam Back wrote: > >> Jonathan's fast minter does ~4 Megahashes/sec or about 22 bits/sec on >> a 3Ghz P4. But I concur: I think 20 bits is about right now also. > > eric wrote: > but you're talking about a stamp of under a second. That's really way > too short. You are only looking at degrading spammer performance by > 50(ish). If you use a 15 second stamp, you are degrading to performanc= e > by 750(ish). the smaller stamp also makes the zombie argument more > viable. > As a reference point; http://www.hashcash.org/papers/proof-work.pdf (page 5) Calculates spammer profitability breakeven point at about 50 seconds per email. Microsoft CSRI paper at: http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/twc/privacy/spam_csri.mspx uses a slightl= y different method, but calculates the breakeven point at 60 seconds.