6. Solutions - E-postage (was Re: Forbes: Pay up)

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William Leibzon.

At 12:46 AM 7/3/2003 +0100, Roy S. Walker wrote:
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>"Charge the sender" was discussed yesterday at the famous 'spam summit' at 
>the house of commons in
>the UK.  View seems to be: this will further encourage the practice of 
>spammers to gain control of
>legitimate email servers, with the intention of sending out spam from an 
>'authorised' sender (the
>recent piece on the BBC re British Airways as a source of spam refers..). 
>This idea will NOT work
>in practice.  Naive innocents would pick up the charge.
>
>Roy
>
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>Roy S. Walker
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>On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 16:16:16 -0700, Steve Schear wrote:
> >A promising way to curb spam: Charge the sender.
> >
> >Hoping to stop the evil epidemic of spam, Philip Raymond is putting
> >a price
> >on it. The 46-year-old software executive has a provisional patent
> >on a
> >service called Vanquish, which requires e-mail senders to post a
> >cash bond
> >of 5 cents into a bank account for every piece of e-mail they send.
> >If a
> >recipient judges the mail to be illegitimate, the sender loses the
> >nickel,
> >with four pennies going to the recipient's Internet service provider
> >and
> >one penny going to Vanquish as a processing fee. If the recipient
> >okays the
> >message, that sender is cleared from then on. But if the human or
> >machine
> >behind the spam won't post a bond, the message doesn't go through.
> >
> >With Internet service providers processing 6.9 billion spam messages
> >a day,
> >the price for senders could add up quickly. "We don't search for
> >combinations of words and numbers," Raymond says. "We let recipients
> >decide
> >if they want it."
> >
> >In a trial of the service, 400 customers from eight small Internet
> >service
> >providers were offered Vanquish for free. Vanquish blocked spam
> >cold, but
> >users also experienced installation problems and delays in checking
> >e-mail.
> >Vanquish, based outside Boston, says it has fixed the glitches for
> >its June
> >launch, and aims to have a lofty 35 million users by the end of the
> >year.
> >It expects ISPs to pay 20 to 45 cents per customer per month.
> >
> >Raymond, who has started and sold two previous tech firms, figures
> >that
> >legitimate marketers, accustomed to paying for their messages in
> >other
> >media, will understand and appreciate Vanquish. As it is, private
> >filtering
> >systems and spam blacklists block plenty of marketers' e-mails.
> >Yahoo and
> >AOL have destroyed messages between Procter & Gamble and customers
> >who
> >agreed to be contacted, as well as acceptance letters to Harvard
> >University
> >applicants.
> >
> >Raymond has a good idea--other firms such as IronPort have also
> >announced
> >spam-bond products--but doesn't have much money. Vanquish is burning
> >through $38,000 a month, even with three engineers working for one-
> >third of
> >their usual salary. Recently Raymond had to beg his advisory board
> >for
> >another $75,000.
> >
> >http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2003/0707/110.html
> >
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