Re: Crm114-general Digest, Vol 33, Issue 12

Thomas Michael Hagen <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.mail.spam.crm114
Message-ID <[email protected]>
thanks!

the thing is, i am not filtering spam; i'm doing a topic classifier (with 29
categories) as a research project, so there is a lot of academic curiosity
as to what features - and what tokens - are in there.

it would be nice to have two things: first, a utility that would output the
features and tokens from a .cfc-file without getting a vasectomy.
second, a variable that contained the unique features that a particular
sample generated (perhaps these could be included in the :stats:-variable).

i wonder if is this something that bill has considered, or if  it is
completely undoable.


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> is there any way to see the features and/or tokens that are stored in the
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> > is there any way to see the features and/or tokens that are stored in
> > the .cfc-files?
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> IIRC, features are stored as hashes. Non-cryptographic, but slightly
> less reversible than a vasectomy.
>
> Not that this is something that you really want to do for any business
> purpose. It might be of some academic curiousity, but you won't be
> manually tuning CRM classifiers. The good news is that it's too much
> trouble for Mallory to reverse out features too. Since it's not really
> practical for someone to get a list of white list and black list words,
> you don't have to worry too much about specially crafted Spam targeted
> for your filters, as happens with manually maintained regexps.
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> Chris
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