Re: Special Interest Groups - HTTP/CGI and SMTP/MIME

Chris Babcock <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.mail.spam.crm114
Organization Kolonel Panic
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 00:33:03 +0100
Paolo <[email protected]> wrote:

> > scripts to implement network protocols. Unless I get a pointer to an
> > existing group or a clear "Don't leave us out of this discussion,"
> > from the powers that be on this list then I want to start two
> > distribution lists - one for HTTP issues and the other for e-mail
> > issues.  
> 
> imho separate lists are the way to go; those interested into the apps
> can always joint the proper list(s), and x-posting here could be done
> on case by case.

That was my suspicion. :-)

So this is a call for interest in two lists... 

The first deals with using CGI in CRM scripts, which will include
references to the HTTP protocol, web server configuration and the MIME
types and encodings relevant to web scripting. CRM is a good choice for
CGI scripting because it has much lower overhead than Perl or Python
and it is optimized for text processing while remaining somewhat human
readable. Also, decoding url-encoded text in a LIAF loop protects
against the arbitrary-depth url-encoding vulnerability. :-)

The second list will be about hacking email protocols - SMTP, QMTP,
MIME - with CRM. Right now, CRM scripts are a fun and potentially
accurate way to filter inbound data streams, most obviously email. While
the CRM classifier libraries will provide a solid approach to filtering
applications where output or throughput are at issue, it does so by
sacrificing the flexibility of the scripting language. That is fine. I
know that it's a niche language, but I happen to enjoy using it for
general scripting tasks, especially munging outbound mail. On mailing
lists and applications that behave like mailing lists, invoking
sendmail with syscall - even asynchronously - is a significant
bottleneck. When a CRM script replaces a sendmail call or a sendmail
wrapper script, it can dramatically increase throughput by connecting
to the local mail server with SMTP and improve deliverability by
formating the message body and headers in compliance with current
standards and best practices.

...reply offlist.

Chris

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