Re: shrinking css files for quicker training?

I always thought that was part of the idea of it.  Unforch I never made it
to the reaver level of the software.  There was something that kept me stuck
in mailfilter land.  I will approach that again, and perhaps that should be
my next step, as I *also* take on retraining, whenever I can manage it, and
meanwhile I will limp along driven by old corpses [sick [sic]].

-Kurt


On 12/18/12 7:49 AM, "Eugene Crosser" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Wouldn't it be relatively easy and "safe" to use the contents of the
> reaver_cache as the corpus for initial training?
> 
> Eugene
> 
> On 12/18/2012 07:00 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> 
>> Kurt Bigler <kkb-qsUyPSV3HvqUK90frp/[email protected]> writes:
>> 
>>> Hi, all,
>>> 
>>> I've been mostly just letting my crm114 mailfilter installation just "sit"
>>> for a number of years and it just keeps on working, of course.
>>> 
>>> However, along the way I think I may have expanded my css files too much,
>>> perhaps too concerned about packing density.  I judge this from the fact
>>> that the learning seems entirely too sluggish compared to what it used to
>>> be.  
>> 
>> Hmmm... try cssutil -r <cssfile>  and post the results here.
>> 
>> It may be the case that you do indeed have too much stuff in there and
>> the relay chains are just getting too long.
>> 
>>> I assume so much has been trained by now that new training has less than the
>>> desired impact.  This may have worsened due to the number of years the css
>>> files have been in use, and just how much spam has changed over that time.
>>> I would like some of the old training to "fall off the end" but I don't have
>>> the time required to just start over right now.
>> 
>> Ahhh- "aging" - the Castle Anthrax of text recognition.
>> 
>> That is a problem, which is *not* circumvented by any system I know of.
>> 
>> All of those wonderful examples of spam from five years ago are
>> completely obsolete, and possibly misleading.
>> 
>> My advice is (sadly) that you can't really "age" it - the easiest
>> thing to do (which will at least give you more space and make too-long
>> chains shorter again) is to use cssmerge to create a bigger file
>> (disks are bigger now, dude!)
>> 
>> Other than that, you can start again.
>> 
>> Some (a few) versions of cssutil also had the ability to
>> zeroize small bin values.  That might be useful at least for
>> speedup- however, accuracy will suffer as you are lobotomizing
>> out low-count samples.
>> 
>> Make a copy of your .css files before you do that!
>> 
>> Failing that, you're in for a retrain.  :-(
> 
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