RE: Website link for 196.14.28.226

I am not touching the domain. It is set up to work and it works! 

Abuse mail can be sent to [email protected]. That mailbox is set
up. 

I am not going to split hairs with you anymore. If my IP isn't removed
from your site there's going to be hell to pay.

Abie Strydom 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexey Lobanov (dsbl) [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 21 September 2005 03:23 PM
To: Abie Strydom
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DSBL-Contact] Website link for 196.14.28.226

Hello.

On 21/09/05 16:29, Abie Strydom wrote:

> I have a postmaster account on the
> [email protected] long suffix is part of the 
> hosting company's details.

Yes, I understand that "celestisexch.ctnonsite.hosting.co.za" is the
personal name of your mailserver assigned by hosting company. The
question to you: who is responsible for this host security, who is going
to read abuse reports related to this host?

The possible answers are: either you or your hosting company. Both
answers are good, but it is you who knows the answer.

If you are responsible, you should also have FULL control on your mail
software, and you should be able to configure it for alternative domain
"celestisexch.ctnonsite.hosting.co.za". If you cannot, your software
vendor must help you. If neither you nor your vendor can solve this
trivial task, you just do not control this box and should not speak
about it's security. Period.

If your hosting company is responsible, they are able to delist
"celestisexch.ctnonsite.hosting.co.za" machine using their standard
contact <[email protected]>. If this address does not work or they do
not want to help you...

Best,
Alexey


> That's why I cannot take it off your list...
> 
> I have reached the end of my patience! 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexey Lobanov (dsbl) [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 21 September 2005 02:23 PM
> To: Abie Strydom
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [DSBL-Contact] Website link for 196.14.28.226
> 
> Hello.
> 
> On 21/09/05 15:59, Abie Strydom wrote:
> 
> 
>>Pleeeaaassseee take me off your list.
> 
> 
> Please use the "removalquery" procedure at the DSBL website. It is the

> only way, and it is a simple accountability test: is any responisble 
> human able to receive abuse reports related to  196.14.28.226 
> celestisexch.ctnonsite.hosting.co.za? The current test result is "no":
> your mailserver rejects e-mail to it's own Postmaster and gives 
> irrelevant diagnostics "unable to relay". Surely, it should not relay 
> this mail, it should deliver it locally, to you!
> 
> 
>>Some of my emails keep coming
>>back, see message below. I don't understand how to fix it, I've read 
>>your website and made changes to my server and installed anti spam 
>>software so that spammers can't use my servers.
> 
> 
> "Antispam software" can defend your own mailboxes but rarely helps 
> against unauthorized use of your server. However, the security hole 
> detected 1-Sep-2005 seems to be fixed; so, your statement "I don't 
> understand how to fix it" is too pessimistic.
> 
> 
>>So please, take my servers off your list
> 
> 
> Please prove accountability of your server.
> 
> 
>>and keep them off.
> 
> 
> It completely depends upon you. If you don't allow unauthorized use of

> your servers, noone will be able to add it to DSBL database.
> 
> 
>>I am losing
>>valuable time and money by not being able to communicate properly!
> 
> 
> Please address this issue to your software vendors. They have supplied

> some insecure software to you, and your system was effectively stolen 
> by spammers.
> 
> Best,
> Alexey
> DSBL volunteer
> 
> 
>>Kind regards
>>Abie Strydom
>>Celestis Broker Services
>>0824565137
>>
> 
>