Re: 69.90.16.5: why do I keep getting added to your list? my server is NOT an open relay

Hello.

On 27/09/2005 22:49, Scott Palmateer wrote:

> I'm using Outlook 2000 in my office, however I can also view messages
> through a webmail interface (Icewarp), and the message is the same at both
> readers.

It means that the problem resides in your mail delivery path, somewhere between port 
25 of mail.flow935.com and your mail storage. Naturally, you see same with any reader 
because the message in mailbox is already damaged.

>  Seems to be truncated or "censored" I suppose, however I do not
> have any that strip html links from messages.
> 
> Is that all that is missing from the message?

below is a real example in raw form, including all headers:

Return-Path: <>
Received: from ares.penguinhosting.net (ares.penguinhosting.net [205.231.149.48])
	by relay.wplus.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/RELAY-DVD) with SMTP id j2B93BJl054560
	for <[email protected]>; Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:03:48 +0300 (MSK)
From: DSBL <[email protected]>
Subject: Removal Confirmation for 195.131.118.161
Date: 11 Mar 2005 09:03:11 -0000
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

DSBL has received a request to remove the IP address
195.131.118.161 from its list(s) (triggered by a web request
from 195.131.0.45/192.168.87.1).

If you wish to deny this request, please ignore this
email.  Otherwise, please visit the URL below to
confirm the request and start the removal process
(removal will take 24-25 hours from the time that you
click the link below).

http://dsbl.org/removal_confirm?w4N2oUIxXs9%2FymEG9DpGgxeA0w7ggLtW4nqZAQ%3D%3D

Thank you.

end of message ======

>  A link to follow to complete
> the removal process?
> 
> BTW - I could not send to [email protected] as it's using your list and
> won't let my mail through!

Surely. Why do you wonder that DSBL volunteers use DSBL?

Alexey

> 
> Thanks for you help with this matter.
> 
> Scott Palmateer
> Chief Engineering Technician
> [email protected]
> www.flow935.com
> 211 Yonge St.
> Suite 400
> Toronto, ON
> M5B 1M4
> TEL:(416) 214-5000 ext. 223
> FAX:(416) 214-0660
> FLOW 93.5: CMW Music Industry Awards CHR Station of the Year for 2005.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexey Lobanov [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: September 27, 2005 2:36 PM
> To: Scott Palmateer
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [DSBL-Contact] 69.90.16.5: why do I keep getting added to
> your list? my server is NOT an open relay
> 
> 
> Hi.
> 
> On 27/09/2005 22:14, Scott Palmateer wrote:
> 
> 
>>That's all that's in the message - no link top follow, nothing.
> 
> 
> I have the only idea: you have some kind of censorship system cutting pieces
> of your
> mail.
> 
> Yes, there are reasons to "sanitize" HTML tags in text/html messages, to
> prevent
> automatic actions in mailreader. But making any changes in plain text seems
> to be
> something abnormal, doesn't it?
> 
> The practical proposal is to locate this censor and make it less fascist. In
> my
> opinion, now you fail the accountability test because you are not allowed to
> receive
> and read important parts of your mail, including spam evidences in abuse
> reports.
> 
> However, the HTML links below are not censored. Possibly, this diagnosis is
> wrong?
> Any other ideas?
> 
> Alexey
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>Scott Palmateer
>>Chief Engineering Technician
>>[email protected]
>>www.flow935.com
>>211 Yonge St.
>>Suite 400
>>Toronto, ON
>>M5B 1M4
>>TEL:(416) 214-5000 ext. 223
>>FAX:(416) 214-0660
>>FLOW 93.5: CMW Music Industry Awards CHR Station of the Year for 2005.
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Alexey Lobanov [mailto:[email protected]]
>>Sent: September 27, 2005 2:09 PM
>>To: Scott Palmateer
>>Cc: [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: [DSBL-Contact] 69.90.16.5: why do I keep getting added to
>>your list? my server is NOT an open relay
>>
>>
>>Hi Scott.
>>
>>On 27/09/2005 21:59, Scott Palmateer wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>H Alexey,
>>>
>>>It seems I have been added AGAIN!  Why might this be happening on a
>>
>>regular
>>
>>
>>>basis?
>>
>>
>>According to the history at http://dsbl.org/listing?69.90.16.5, this host
>>was listed
>>once and never delisted. Noone of three delisting attempts was finished.
>>
>>
>>
>>>Yours is the only list that I find myself on.
>>>
>>>F: <> T: <[email protected]> S: Removal Confirmation for 69.90.16.5
>>
>>D:
>>
>>
>>>9/22/2005 9:04:09 AM DSBL has received a request to remove the IP address
>>>69.90.16.5 from its list(s) (triggered by a web request
>>
>>>from 216.209.32.5
>>
>>
>>Fine; this is a part of test message text. Where is the unique magic URL
>>from same
>>messsage? You should either visit this URL yourself or post it to this
>>maillist
>>today, it is still valid.
>>
>>Alexey
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>This preceding was recieved 9/22, so now I can't get removed for another 4
>>>days.
>>>
>>>
>>>Scott Palmateer
>>>Chief Engineering Technician
>>>[email protected]
>>>www.flow935.com
>>>211 Yonge St.
>>>Suite 400
>>>Toronto, ON
>>>M5B 1M4
>>>TEL:(416) 214-5000 ext. 223
>>>FAX:(416) 214-0660
>>>FLOW 93.5: CMW Music Industry Awards CHR Station of the Year for 2005.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Alexey Lobanov (dsbl) [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>Sent: September 16, 2005 4:13 PM
>>>To: Scott Palmateer
>>>Cc: [email protected]
>>>Subject: Re: [DSBL-Contact] 69.90.16.5: why do I keep getting added to
>>>your list? my server is NOT an open relay
>>>
>>>
>>>Hello.
>>>
>>>On 17/09/05 00:00, Scott Palmateer wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>It's possible I deleted them myself.
>>>
>>>
>>>It is possible but illogical a bit. The DSBL "removal" messages have
>>>quite informative subject, sender name and content, and I doubt that you
>>>could delete them without reading if you have requested DSBL removal few
>>>seconds before.
>>>
>>>Anyway, your server logs can tell you much more.
>>>
>>>Alexey
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Scott Palmateer
>>>>Chief Engineering Technician
>>>>[email protected]
>>>>www.flow935.com
>>>>211 Yonge St.
>>>>Suite 400
>>>>Toronto, ON
>>>>M5B 1M4
>>>>TEL:(416) 214-5000 ext. 223
>>>>FAX:(416) 214-0660
>>>>FLOW 93.5: CMW Music Industry Awards CHR Station of the Year for 2005.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Alexey Lobanov (dsbl) [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>Sent: September 16, 2005 3:44 PM
>>>>To: Scott Palmateer
>>>>Cc: [email protected]
>>>>Subject: Re: [DSBL-Contact] 69.90.16.5: why do I keep getting added to
>>>>your list? my server is NOT an open relay
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hello.
>>>>
>>>>On 16/09/05 23:33, Scott Palmateer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for your quick response Alexey.  Sorry to come off the wrong way,
>>>>
>>>>but
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>it has been frustrating.  I don't think I received that email your speak
>>>>
>>>>of
>>>>
>>>>>from 2005/Sep/14 14:37:37 UTC - the postmaster account does fwd to me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I know only that this mail was accepted by your server 69.90.16.5, and
>>>>this server said: "Message accepted for delivery". All the rest should
>>>>be in your mailserver logs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Can
>>>>>it be resent?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yes, next week. But it seems to be useless until you track down two
>>>>previous messages and determine what did your server do with them.
>>>>
>>>>Best,
>>>>Alexey
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Scott Palmateer
>>>>>Chief Engineering Technician
>>>>>[email protected]
>>>>>www.flow935.com
>>>>>211 Yonge St.
>>>>>Suite 400
>>>>>Toronto, ON
>>>>>M5B 1M4
>>>>>TEL:(416) 214-5000 ext. 223
>>>>>FAX:(416) 214-0660
>>>>>FLOW 93.5: CMW Music Industry Awards CHR Station of the Year for 2005.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Alexey Lobanov (dsbl) [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>Sent: September 16, 2005 3:15 PM
>>>>>To: Scott Palmateer
>>>>>Cc: [email protected]
>>>>>Subject: Re: [DSBL-Contact] 69.90.16.5: why do I keep getting added to
>>>>>your list? my server is NOT an open relay
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hello.
>>>>>
>>>>>On 16/09/05 21:15, Scott Palmateer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>  69.90.16.5 somehow keeps getting added to your list.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Please look in "Messages from this host" section at
>>>>>http://dsbl.org/listing?69.90.16.5. This somehow was a test message
>>>>>relayed by your server in August.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>It's the only blacklist I've ever been added to (see here
>>>>>>http://rbls.org/?q=69.90.16.5), and I have requested removal a few
> 
> times
> 
>>>>>>already.  I have tested it here http://msv.dk/ms009.asp and it comes
>>
>>back
>>
>>
>>>>>>safe.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>My test also shows that the vulnerability is fixed.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Please let me know asap what can be done about this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The DSBL delisting criteria is simple enough: it is "accountability".
>>>>>Please prove that someone (i.e., you) reads messages for
>>>>><[email protected]>; nothing more.
>>>>>
>>>>>The last message dated 2005/Sep/14 14:37:37 UTC contains simple
>>>>>instructions; please find it, read it and do what it asks to do. That's
>>>>>all. The instructions are valid during 7 days, so the previous message
>>>>>of August 25 does not work.
>>>>>
>>>>>Best,
>>>>>Alexey
>>>>>DSBL volunteer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Thank you.
>>>>>>Scott Palmateer
>>>>>>Chief Engineering Technician
>>>>>>[email protected]
>>>>>>www.flow935.com
>>>>>>211 Yonge St.
>>>>>>Suite 400
>>>>>>Toronto, ON
>>>>>>M5B 1M4
>>>>>>TEL:(416) 214-5000 ext. 223
>>>>>>FAX:(416) 214-0660
>>>>>>FLOW 93.5: CMW Music Industry Awards CHR Station of the Year for 2005.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>