Re: Opportunistic signatures - a proposed design
Atom 'Smasher' <[email protected]>
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On Sun, 29 Aug 2004, Hal Finney wrote: > The issue of using a shared-secret type of signature versus a public-key > signature is being discussed by others. I will focus on the details of > the shared-secret signature. ============== regarding shared secrets... a practical implementation of a system using shared secrets would be an absolute nightmare on anything approaching the scale of email. if anyone can explain a feasible (secure, trusted, invisible to end users, etc) system of key exchange, i'd enjoy hearing about it. simpler (and less secure) than a MAC, but suitable for some applications, is just whitelisting a secret... this could range from the pgp fingerprint in the body and header of my mail (it's unlikely that a spammer would include my fingerprint in spam, and even more unlikely that it would aid the spammer getting past a whitelist), to an extra header, such as: X-Whitelist-This: secret or: X-Whitelist-This: d1ac8c83e8d2dbe6a77c95a2ef6672f654819400 the first form (with the example of a pgp fingerprint in the body of the message) is useful for hiding a secret in plain sight... i use the latter form to send myself mail from web-forms... sometimes they seem spammy (mostly due to poor spelling and grammar), but i ALWAYS want to read them... for this application, an incredibly insecure protocol is secure enough. ...atom _________________________________________ PGP key - http://atom.smasher.org/pgp.txt 762A 3B98 A3C3 96C9 C6B7 582A B88D 52E4 D9F5 7808 ------------------------------------------------- "It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can keep him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important." -- Martin Luther King, Jr. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.3.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: What is this gibberish? Comment: http://atom.smasher.org/links/#digital_signatures iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJBMjlhAAoJEAx/d+cTpVcioIAIAJ73Z9gEVT5gPJGTwl+twrpc pm1Urs+08f4yOLsziarI5KOU/QOkplZ7U79LxXPK11o8LoM8AKULxXsOkWprNik0 jgJ98B/NB0HRDlFqAQwNA8VNnTSMszZsL1k3jFS+W5Jd3uuZ3XgfQxjIfm6WVhoN ndX9ZU7eAaWL156zbkPSpA28ZyDX+M0cDUhx4CDJJfa23qYBCz/dBbJAQl8G6TlI dUs+TK22pT1uSmB8jyjlJVHQTD1P99S+fLUr22nhUfkWXyXQGqo6I6QxEv1ljdmI zNQKnZ1hBI2ZKnEK2P1c50/W1FzpC04RUf6pjNQyuHVcKuoLWAcZjdIdMFBzIew= =vDM4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----