Re: PR Problem?
decoder <[email protected]> Sun, 12 Nov 2006 10:16:40 +0100
| Newsgroups | gmane.mail.spam.hashcash |
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Todd A. Jacobs wrote: > On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 04:48:44PM +0000, DeLesley Hutchins wrote: > > >> I was surprised to find that Thunderbird still has no HashCash >> support. It's a popular mail-reader, open source, with a plugin > > Open-source programming requires that someone with some programming > skill has an itch to scratch. Apparently, nobody capable of writing > Thunderbird plugins has felt that itch yet or it would already have been > done. > > Integration is an issue. Hashcash is *not* trivial to implement at the > MUA level, isn't a drop-in piece of the MDA toolchain, and even MTA > support (where it exists) may not play well with other tools. > > TMDA (http://tmda.net) has had hashcash support for a while in the > development branch, but only recently in the stable branch. And even > there, while you can get hashcash to work, it's not self-evident how to > really apply the process to inbound mail (e.g. do you use hashcash to > bypass C/R, or to modify your scoring, or something altogether > different?) and so it isn't turned on by everyone. > > If you want wider uptake, you have to address the installed based of > software. And more importantly, you have to convince people that it adds > value to install and configure it even if almost no one else does the > same. OpenPGP cleartext-signing is a great example of this philosophy: > it provides some observable utility (non-repudiation) even if the vast > majority of one's email correspondents don't use PGP/GPG. > > FWIW, now that TMDA supports hashcash in the stable branch, *I* use it > to mint stamps on all outgoing email from my MUA. But I don't check > incoming email, because: > > 1. I almost never get X-Hashcash headers from anyone I know, and > > 2. I don't really see the informational value of checking for it > with my existing toolchain, since I don't use scoring per-se. > > At some point, if I'm feeling industrious, I might try to whomp up a > procmail filter that appends an X-Hashcash-Validated header to messages > that have valid stamps, so that bogofilter (or other tools) might score > them a bit higher. That would be useful to me. How do *you* use > X-Hashcash headers? Currently we stamp all outgoing mails on our postfix server (just some Bcc: stuff does not work), and we check hashcash stamps with spamassassin. Works fine though we almost never receive any stamped mails.... Maybe it will change when I write a Thunderbird plugin Regards, Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFVuZ4JQIKXnJyDxURAkxsAKCskfmq5c/+YfGm4Axm1AKttW46SwCgqThB WcBilBBD+53FYcNOj/QPGes= =jJkj -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----