Re[2]: svn commit: r1934386 - spamassassin/trunk/rules
John Hardin <[email protected]> Wed, 20 May 2026 07:32:59 -0700 (PDT)
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This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --17497600608538172177928726110099 Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-ID: <[email protected]> On Wed, 20 May 2026, Kent Oyer wrote: > Hi Giovanni, > > You make a fair point about this being an unexpected change for users running 4.0.2 pre-1934332. After a bit of pondering, I > have two responses/concerns (both IMHO): > > 1. Probing URLs we haven't vetted is risky and equally unexpected. If SA's probe ends up unsubscribing a user from a list, or > approving/denying a request on their behalf, that's a far worse surprise than a missing redirector match. An argument could > even be made that a lenient allowlist is itself an attack surface. A crafted spam message can direct SA to fire HTTP requests > at attacker-chosen URLs on any allowlisted host, from the recipient's mail-server IP. The narrower the allowlist, the smaller > the risk. > > 2. The .cf file is a curated allowlist, not part of the API. I think users expect us to maintain it as we learn more about > which hosts are abusable and how they operate. Pruning entries that don't meet the standard for inclusion is part of that > maintenance. For instance, the documentation in the .cf file states: > # Please only add entries that you manually verified as actual working > # redirectors that can have abusable custom URLs. Adding non-abusable > # services only generates unnecessary HTTP requests. > > So the criteria for inclusion are: (1) actual working redirector and (2) from an abusable service. Including hosts that > may-or-may-not be working redirectors seems contrary to that advice. I concur completely. Better safe than sorry in a situation like this, thus curate the list (at least the bare-domain non-path list) conservatively rather than aggressively. Proof is needed. -- John Hardin KA7OHZ http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ [email protected] pgpk -a [email protected] key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Britain used to be the most powerful empire in the world. Now they're terrified of pocketknives. How the mighty have fallen. -- Matt Walsh ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 5 days until Memorial Day - honor those who sacrificed for our liberty --17497600608538172177928726110099--