Re: MSGID_BELONGS_RECIPIENT and DKIMWL

Alex <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.mail.spam.spamassassin.general
Message-ID <CAB1R3siNRp1VJMr3p4yC=DxGANRSg4QdJJObTc6Jcg=B1cDSGQ@mail.gmail.com>
Kris, thanks so much for the direction. It was enough for me to investigate
and make some changes. I hadn't realized I still had Paul Stead's rules
locally as well as updated rules in SA proper.

Thanks,
Alex

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 11:23 AM Kris Deugau <[email protected]> wrote:

> Alex wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I had an obit email very unfortunately get tagged as spam for what
> > appears to be the result of a few DKIMWL rules and
> MSGID_BELONGS_RECIPIENT.
> >
> >   *  1.0 DKIMWL_BULKMAILER_LOW ASKDNS: DKIMwl.org - Low scoring
> bulkmailer
> >   *      [tbias-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com.lookup.dkimwl.org
> > <http://tbias-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com.lookup.dkimwl.org> A:127.0.2.1]
>
> Not a stock rule.
>
>
> >   *  1.5 DKIMWL_BL ASKDNS: DKIMwl.org - Low trust sender
> >   *      [tbias-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com.lookup.dkimwl.org
> > <http://tbias-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com.lookup.dkimwl.org> A:127.0.2.1]
>
> The lookup result looks to have shifted somewhat from "low" to "low-med":
>
> $ host tbias-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com.lookup.dkimwl.org
> tbias-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com.lookup.dkimwl.org has address 127.0.2.2
>
> however it looks likely you've redefined the rule, so it's not behaving
> as per stock or per DKIMwl.org's usage guidelines: http://dkimwl.org/usage
> .
>
> The stock version of this rule should only match results ending in .0.
>
>
> >   *  1.0 MSGID_BELONGS_RECIPIENT Message-ID domain belongs to recipient
>
> Also not a stock rule.  It's difficult to tell with the redactions in
> the pastebin, but it also appears to be misfiring.  You'll have to post
> unredacted headers along with the rule details for specific help.
>
>
> > How reliable are the DKIMWL_ rules? They seem to hit a lot of ham,
>
> That's the intention.  They're to help otherwise legitimate senders that
> may send spammier content still get through.
>
> I've scored them to an advisory -0.001 locally, as I had a few too many
> cases of outright abuse of an otherwise fairly clean platform to send
> scams.  It's been easier to deal with the resulting occasional false
> positive one at a time instead.
>
> -kgd
>
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