Re: ChatGPT > Spamassassin? :)

Bill Cole <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.mail.spam.spamassassin.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 2024-06-24 at 17:18:11 UTC-0400 (Mon, 24 Jun 2024 17:18:11 -0400)
Mark London <[email protected]>
is rumored to have said:

> I received a spam email with the text below, that wasn't caught by 
> Spamassasin (at least mine).   The text actually looks like something 
> that was generated using ChatGPT.  In any event,  I put the text 
> through ChatGPT, and asked if it looked like spam.  At the bottom of 
> this email , is it's analysis.  I've not been fully reading this 
> group.  Has there been any work to allow Spamassassin to use AI?

"Artificial intelligence" does not exist. It is a misnomer.

Large language models like ChatGPT have a provenance problem. There's no 
way to know why exactly the model "says" anything. In a single 
paragraph, ChatGPT is capable of making completely and directly 
inconsistent assertions. The only way to explain that is that despite 
appearances, a request to answer the ham/spasm question generates text 
with no semantic connection to the original, but which seems like an 
explanation.

SpamAssassin's code and rules all come from ASF committers, and the 
scores are determined by examining the scan results from contributors 
and optimizing them to a threshold of 5.0. Every scan of a message 
results in a list of hits against documented rules. The results can be 
analyzed and understood.

We know that ChatGPT and other LLMs that are publicly available have 
been trained on data to which they had no license. There is no way to 
remove any particular ingested data. There's no way to know where any 
particular LLM will have problems and no way to fix those problems. This 
all puts them outside of the boundaries we have as an ASF project. 
However, we do have a plugin architecture, so it is possible for 3rd 
parties to create a plugin for LLM integration.


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