Re: ATTENTION: DNSWL to be disabled by default.

Matus UHLAR - fantomas <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.mail.spam.spamassassin.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
>>>>Root Cause Analysis (in order):
>>>>
>>>>1) DNSWL does not provide blocked codes.  That deviates from 
>>>>most DNS-query based systems.
>>
>>On 24.09.24 20:43, Matthias Leisi wrote:
>>>This is wrong.

>On 26/09/24 01:20, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
>>I have checked with 1.1.1.1, where queries only return 127.0.10.3
>>
>>It would help SA (and perhaps also DNSWL) if DNSWL would return 
>>127.0.0.255 in addition to 127.0.10.3
>>
>>- there is already rule to suspend
>>
>>header      RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED   
>>eval:check_rbl_sub('dnswl-firsttrusted', '^127\.0\.\d+\.255$')
>>dns_block_rule RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED list.dnswl.org

On 26.09.24 18:11, Peter wrote:
>I'm not very proficient at SA rules so I won't attempt to write one 
>for this, but perhaps this would help:
>
>$ dig amiblocked.dnswl.org txt @1.1.1.1 +short
>"You are blocked from using list.dnswl.org through public nameservers"
>"yes"
>$ dig amiblocked.dnswl.org txt @127.0.0.1 +short
>"no"
>
>It looks like the above test is definitive and works regardless of 
>what other codes might be returned.

% dig amiblocked.dnswl.org txt @1.1.1.1
amiblocked.dnswl.org.   300     IN      TXT     "no"

however this needs one more DNS lookup, which is the opposite of what we 
need.

BTW today I get different results for open resolvers - 1.1.1.1 and 9.9.9.9 
return 127.0.6.2, 8.8.8.8 returns nothing (was 127.0.10.3 a while ago).

many dnsbls supports BLOCKED reply, but only spamhaus supports different 
reply for open resolvers - BLOCKED_OPENDNS (127.255.255.254).

SA reacts on BLOCKED by pausing for dns_block_time (default 300) seconds.

Of course, SA can't depend on spamhaus reply with other DNSBLs, mostly 
because different blocking criteria.

...as I said, if dnswl returned BLOCKED in addition to HIGH it would help 
SA at least a bit.

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