Re: All RCVD_IN_VALIDITY rules being applied to every email.

On 20/11/2024 16:39, Nix wrote:
> On 20 Nov 2024, Nick Howitt uttered the following:
> 
>>
>>
>> On 20/11/2024 12:55, Nix wrote:
>>> On 19 Nov 2024, Greg Troxel told this:
>>>
>>>> Matija Nalis <[email protected]> writes:
>>>>
>>>>>   From https://knowledge.validity.com/s/articles/Accessing-Validity-reputation-data-through-DNS :
>>>>>
>>>>>>    Starting March 1, 2024, Validity will allow up to 10,000 requests to anonymous users over a 30-day period.
>>>>>
>>>>> 10k requests per 30-day period is about 333 queries/day. Or less than 14 queries per hour.
>>>>> Not very much at all (and certainly at least order of magnitude less than your stated traffic).
>>>>> No amount of local DNS caching is going to fix limits *that low*.
>>>>
>>>> That is remarkably low.
>>> ... the account is free and then they hit you with an EULA that says
>>>
>>>> The Services are available at the then-current rate. Customer shall
>>>> pay all applicable fees when due as invoiced and, if fees are being
>>>> paid via credit card or other electronic means, Customer authorizes
>>>> Validity to charge fees using Customer’s selected payment method.
>>> By my reading that means they can just decide to start charging you and
>>> you have no recourse?! Though the account is explicitly stated in huge
>>> letters to be "free", so one hopes that would count as the "then-current
>>> rate". The near-contradiction is unfortunate though, and there's no
>>> indication about them having to tell you when they change their fees.
>>> (Not that they could get any money from me without asking anyway.)
>>> The account requires a 'company name', so I guess if you're an
>>> individual you're... fucked?
>>
>> Sorry but this is conspiracy theory rubbish. You can open an account
>> easily and use your name as a business. You can possibly easily put in
>> "none" or "n/a" and the account is yours. No billing details or
>> address details at all so how can they suddenly start billing?
> 
> They can't, but they might think they can start hitting you with bill
> demands out of the blue. Having just gone through exactly that with my
> electricity provider (where due to terrible record-keeping it suddenly
> decided I was an unrelated business and owed them tens of thousands of
> someone else's bill: it took months to sort out and I had to threaten
> them with legal action and the press), I am a *little* paranoid about
> that sort of thing right now.
> 
> In the UK at least a large number of consumer protection laws cease to
> apply if you're a business (not that I am).
> 
>> Just accept that if you want to start using their information for
>> free, you will have to give a name and email address. You will also
>> need to declare an IP address or CIDR, presumably for their whitelist.
> 
> Yeah. *That* I have no objection to. It's the requirement to agree to a
> cut-and-paste EULA and the assumption that any users must be corporate
> that is... concerning.
> 
I am also in the UK. Just put None as the business name, then. If you're 
really worried, use a disposable email, but then they can't tell you if 
you breach their limits.