Re: Request for Whitelisting or Spam Score Adjustment for our TDL Domain

Bill Cole <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.mail.spam.spamassassin.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 2025-02-16 at 04:41:25 UTC-0500 (Sun, 16 Feb 2025 19:41:25 +1000)
Noel Butler <[email protected]>
is rumored to have said:

> On 16/02/2025 01:07, Bill Cole wrote:
>
>> On 2025-02-15 at 07:42:44 UTC-0500 (Sat, 15 Feb 2025 13:42:44 +0100)
>> wissen.online | Stefan Mehlhorn <[email protected]>
>> is rumored to have said:
>>
>>> Hi Bill,
>>>
>>> so do you have another idea?
>>
>> Hi Stefan,
>>
>> No, I do not, aside from the implicit starting point: do not send 
>> spam. Make sure every recipient is an individual who has asked for 
>> your email and wants it, to the greatest degree possible. If you 
>> cannot do that, nothing anyone can tell you will fix your 
>> deliverability. SpamAssassin is not designed to allow "legitimate" 
>> bulk unsolicited email. Users who want that should whitelist the 
>> spammers of whom they approve and avoid showing it to SA.
>>
>> Relevant to avoiding having your email seen as spam by SpamAssassin, 
>> sending less spam-like email and finding a new and better domain name 
>> are the full extent of my deliverability advice. I understand that 
>> these recommendations are not easily implemented for an established 
>> organization.
>
> errrr. the problem is the dynamic style address block, not spam. PBL 
> is a list that is essentially a DUL.

Yes, and it must never be applied to the initial submission of email. SA 
works pretty hard to figure out which hand-offs to check against DNSBLs, 
and to NOT check initial submission against the PBL and similar lists of 
end-user addresses.

BUT THAT IS NOT THE PROBLEM HERE AT ALL.

> Benny (for once) gave the *only* sensible answer, get an IP that is 
> static and not in a PBL (DUL/Dynamic style) address pool and get 
> proper A/AAAA and matching PTR records.

No, Benny, as usual, added nothing but noise to the discussion by 
looking past the submission point to find a PBL-listed address.


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