Re: Request for Whitelisting or Spam Score Adjustment for our TDL Domain

On 17/02/2025 03:23, Bill Cole wrote:

> On 2025-02-16 at 04:41:25 UTC-0500 (Sun, 16 Feb 2025 19:41:25 +1000)
> Noel Butler <[email protected]>
> is rumored to have said:
> 
> On 16/02/2025 01:07, Bill Cole wrote:
> 
> On 2025-02-15 at 07:42:44 UTC-0500 (Sat, 15 Feb 2025 13:42:44 +0100)
> wissen.online | Stefan Mehlhorn <[email protected]>
> is rumored to have said:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> so do you have another idea?
> Hi Stefan,
> 
> No, I do not, aside from the implicit starting point: do not send spam. 
> Make sure every recipient is an individual who has asked for your email 
> and wants it, to the greatest degree possible. If you cannot do that, 
> nothing anyone can tell you will fix your deliverability. SpamAssassin 
> is not designed to allow "legitimate" bulk unsolicited email. Users who 
> want that should whitelist the spammers of whom they approve and avoid 
> showing it to SA.
> 
> Relevant to avoiding having your email seen as spam by SpamAssassin, 
> sending less spam-like email and finding a new and better domain name 
> are the full extent of my deliverability advice. I understand that 
> these recommendations are not easily implemented for an established 
> organization.

errrr. the problem is the dynamic style address block, not spam. PBL is 
a list that is essentially a DUL.
Yes, and it must never be applied to the initial submission of email. SA 
works pretty hard to figure out which hand-offs to check against DNSBLs, 
and to NOT check initial submission against the PBL and similar lists of 
end-user addresses.

BUT THAT IS NOT THE PROBLEM HERE AT ALL.

> Benny (for once) gave the *only* sensible answer, get an IP that is 
> static and not in a PBL (DUL/Dynamic style) address pool and get proper 
> A/AAAA and matching PTR records.

No, Benny, as usual, added nothing but noise to the discussion by 
looking past the submission point to find a PBL-listed address.

Ohhh thats right, because  in 
<[email protected]>  you pretty much 
implied Stefan was a spammer, without providing evidence I might add, so 
cough up, let the rest of us know what you do and we don't, and just 
because they use a certain TLD, doesnt wash as proof, despite the fact I 
know what you're getting at given some early adopters of that TLD, as in 
thgis part of the world I see a fair bit of legitimate stuff from it 
these days and very little from the miscreants.

-- 
Regards,
Noel Butler