Re: Ways to reduce calls to Validity BLs (was Validity (return path blocklist))
Matus UHLAR - fantomas <[email protected]>
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>"Simon Wilson" <[email protected]> writes: > >> My results (about 1800 inbound emails across 6 days) show: >> * combination of postscreen and other upstream tests are catching true baddies enough that the VALIDITY_RPBL does not catch any for me >> * VALIDITY_SAFE and VALIDITY_CERTIFIED hit on about 5% of total emails (96) On 05.04.25 10:09, Greg Troxel wrote: >Does anybody find incoming mail that is VALIDITY_SAFE but not >VALIDITY_CERTIFIED? I have checked a few servers I maintain, some of them seem to always get matches for both, some don't. >I used to get such mail, and it was in part spam, I think because SAFE >allowed "single opt in" otherwise known as "list owner just added you >saying you somehow signed up". > >But now, I find that if either SAFE or CERTIFIED hits, both do. > > I'd like to ask Andrew to adjust the Validity website to provide an > easy to find, clear explanation of the semantics of the RBLs. I went > to the URL in the config file and just got marketing text. > > I'd like Andrew to explain if there is (still) any point to SAFE and > CERTIFIED being separate. > > Given the very low query limits, and others comments, it seems like SA > should drop SAFE and RPBL. Most of hits I got were from RPBL. That one has positive score, so it's more a spam indicator. > I'm unclear on SA doctrine for included lists, but the Validity list > limits seem too low even for single-person personal sites. Perhaps > now with blocked codes and a way that queries are disabled for a while > if blocked, we're ok with that. Maybe not a single-person host, but even a small company can cross this limit easily. 10k e-mails in 30 days is 333 mails a day, which is quite low number. After checking on multiple hosts I have disabled lookups on some of them because they were producing _BLOCKED responses. -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, [email protected] ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning: I wish NOT to receive e-mail advertising to this address. Varovanie: na tuto adresu chcem NEDOSTAVAT akukolvek reklamnu postu. He who laughs last thinks slowest.