Outlook Tester Here
"Erik M. Brown via spambayes-dev" <[email protected]> Tue, 27 Feb 2024 13:07:52 -0500
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This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============7452313565299814297== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0172_01DA697D.F9BF1910" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0172_01DA697D.F9BF1910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know it's been a minute Skip, and I saw you post on an online forum = asking for an Outlook tester for possibly a new version SpamBayes for = Outlook, and I wanted to let you know that I am available anytime as a = tester! =20 I still use 1.1b2 on a Windows 10 machine running Outlook 2010. I would = LOVE to get a version working on a newer version of Outlook ( I have = 2013 on a Windows 11 machine), where the "Show Spam Clues" is working = again as well. I sure miss that feature. =20 Let me know and I can have Windows 11 as the testing OS and I can get = any version of Outlook as well. =20 Take care, =20 Erik Brown =20 From: spambayes-dev = [mailto:spambayes-dev-bounces+kirebrow=3Dyahoo.com-+ZN9ApsXKcEdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org] On Behalf = Of Skip Montanaro Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 12:16 PM To: John Cherney Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [spambayes-dev] Dev environment setup =20 I've never done anything with Windows. Based on questions asked in the = SpamBayes-related mailing lists, it seems most usage these days does = come from Outlook users, who by-in-large aren't developers. =20 Aside: Given that other email providers have implemented satisfactory = spam filters (Gmail, Thunderbird, even Yahoo!), it's always struck me as = odd that Microsoft hasn't seen fit to provide something for Outlook = users. =20 Skip =20 On Tue, Nov 14, 2023, 9:48=E2=80=AFPM John Cherney = <[email protected]> wrote: Thank you for the info and support!=20 =20 Do either of you use the Outlook client, and if so, can you suggest and = alternate spam filter? I agree gmail does a great job keeping out spam. = I want to still use the Outlook client for my Microsoft email accounts. = (Although I suppose I could be convinced to use their web client, but I = think its spam filtering is just like the Outlook client) =20 With the help of Google and StackOverflow, I was able to get the local = code running with Python3.12 and get the Add In gets registered. But it = has the same issue as with the original 1.1a6 install. Outlook complains = that there is a runtime error on loading of the Add In, and the add-in = is disabled. Any ideas on where I could go to see that exception? I was = hoping something would go in the EventViewer, or in a log file = somewhere, but I haven=E2=80=99t found anything yet.=20 =20 Thanks, jwc =20 From: Skip Montanaro <[email protected]>=20 Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 2:57 PM To: [email protected] Cc: John Cherney <[email protected]>; [email protected] Subject: Re: [spambayes-dev] Dev environment setup =20 Thanks for responding Mark. As you indicated, SpamBayes has been on = long-term hiatus. The biggest impressive for me are a) Gmail does a good = job, and b) I've so far been unable to convince anyone with Windows = packaging experience to update that side of things. =20 That said, porting most of it to Python 3 isn't likely to be all that = difficult. A couple of us have taken partial cracks at it. =20 Skip =20 On Mon, Nov 13, 2023, 10:13=E2=80=AFAM Mark Hammond = <[email protected]> wrote: I don't think SpamBayes has any current developers and most work dried = up even before Python 3 was ready. Modern Outlook also hasn't been = tested. So I suspect you are probably on your own here, but those of us = left holding the keys would be happy to arrange any doc etc changes you = might make get committed if possible. Cheers, Mark On 2023-11-12 10:57 p.m., John Cherney wrote: Is there a recommended set of versions of tools and libraries for = Spambayes development? (In particular, is there a recommended setup for = python 3.x?)=20 =20 I would like to get Spambayes to work on a Windows 10 64-bit machine. = The current recommendation works on my machine: Use the 32-bit version = of Office 365 Outlook and install Spambayes into a non-standard = directory like C:/Spambayes. Given that the software works under those = conditions on a 64-bit machine, it makes me think that there is some = interaction (registry key, etc) missing for Outlook 64-bit to recognize = Spambayes. Maybe this is something as simple as rebuilding the installer = on a 64-bit machine? (Ok, realistically, I=E2=80=99m sure someone has = already tried that.) =20 Additionally, is there any way to see the runtime error being generated? = Outlook 64-bit recognizes that Spambayes is there but generates this = message in the Add-ins window: =E2=80=9CLoad Behavior: Not loaded. A = runtime error occurred during the loading of the COM Add-in.=E2=80=9D = Where can I see that runtime error? Maybe it=E2=80=99s a problem = that=E2=80=99s already been solved? I remember seeing some DEP related = issues with Outlook and/or the Spambayes plugin. I didn=E2=80=99t have = any luck trying to disable DEP on the machine or disable it for Outlook = (per the FAQ). Any other suggestions? =20 Thanks, jwc =20 =20 =20 _______________________________________________ spambayes-dev mailing list [email protected] https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes-dev _______________________________________________ spambayes-dev mailing list [email protected] https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes-dev ------=_NextPart_000_0172_01DA697D.F9BF1910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta = http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><meta = name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 14 (filtered = medium)"><style><!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; 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[email protected]<br><b>Subject:</b> = Re: [spambayes-dev] Dev environment setup<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I've = never done anything with Windows. Based on questions asked in the = SpamBayes-related mailing lists, it seems most usage these days does = come from Outlook users, who by-in-large aren't = developers.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>Aside: Given that other email providers have = implemented satisfactory spam filters (Gmail, Thunderbird, even Yahoo!), = it's always struck me as odd that Microsoft hasn't seen fit to provide = something for Outlook users.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>Skip<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On = Tue, Nov 14, 2023, 9:48=E2=80=AFPM John Cherney <<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>> = wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote = style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in = 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thank you = for the info and support! <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Do either = of you use the Outlook client, and if so, can you suggest and alternate = spam filter? I agree gmail does a great job keeping out spam. I want to = still use the Outlook client for my Microsoft email accounts. (Although = I suppose I could be convinced to use their web client, but I think its = spam filtering is just like the Outlook client)<o:p></o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>With the = help of Google and StackOverflow, I was able to get the local code = running with Python3.12 and get the Add In gets registered. But it has = the same issue as with the original 1.1a6 install. Outlook complains = that there is a runtime error on loading of the Add In, and the add-in = is disabled. Any ideas on where I could go to see that exception? I was = hoping something would go in the EventViewer, or in a log file = somewhere, but I haven=E2=80=99t found anything yet. <o:p></o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks,<o:p>= </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>jwc<o:p></o:= p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 = 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b>= Skip Montanaro <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" = target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> = Monday, November 13, 2023 2:57 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" = target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br><b>Cc:</b> John = Cherney <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" = target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>>; <a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" = target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: = [spambayes-dev] Dev environment setup<o:p></o:p></p></div><p = class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks for = responding Mark. As you indicated, SpamBayes has been on long-term = hiatus. The biggest impressive for me are a) Gmail does a good job, and = b) I've so far been unable to convince anyone with Windows packaging = experience to update that side of things.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>That said, = porting most of it to Python 3 isn't likely to be all that difficult. A = couple of us have taken partial cracks at = it.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Skip<o:p></o= :p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Mon, Nov = 13, 2023, 10:13=E2=80=AFAM Mark Hammond <<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" = target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> = wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote = style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in = 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5= .0pt'><div><p>I don't think SpamBayes has any current developers and = most work dried up even before Python 3 was ready. Modern Outlook also = hasn't been tested. So I suspect you are probably on your own here, but = those of us left holding the keys would be happy to arrange any doc etc = changes you might make get committed if = possible.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p><p>Mark<o:p></o:p></p><d= iv><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On = 2023-11-12 10:57 p.m., John Cherney = wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote = style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Is there a = recommended set of versions of tools and libraries for Spambayes = development? (In particular, is there a recommended setup for python = 3.x?) <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I would = like to get Spambayes to work on a Windows 10 64-bit machine. The = current recommendation works on my machine: Use the 32-bit version of = Office 365 Outlook and install Spambayes into a non-standard directory = like C:/Spambayes. Given that the software works under those conditions = on a 64-bit machine, it makes me think that there is some interaction = (registry key, etc) missing for Outlook 64-bit to recognize Spambayes. = Maybe this is something as simple as rebuilding the installer on a = 64-bit machine? (Ok, realistically, I=E2=80=99m sure someone has already = tried that.)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Additionally= , is there any way to see the runtime error being generated? Outlook = 64-bit recognizes that Spambayes is there but generates this message in = the Add-ins window: =E2=80=9CLoad Behavior: Not loaded. A runtime error = occurred during the loading of the COM Add-in.=E2=80=9D Where can I see = that runtime error? Maybe it=E2=80=99s a problem that=E2=80=99s already = been solved? I remember seeing some DEP related issues with Outlook = and/or the Spambayes plugin. I didn=E2=80=99t have any luck trying to = disable DEP on the machine or disable it for Outlook (per the FAQ). Any = other suggestions?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks,<o:p>= </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>jwc<o:p></o:= p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p><= /pre><pre>spambayes-dev mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" = target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a = href=3D"https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes-dev" = target=3D"_blank">https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes-dev<= /a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote></div><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>____________= ___________________________________<br>spambayes-dev mailing list<br><a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" = target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br><a = href=3D"https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes-dev" = target=3D"_blank">https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes-dev<= /a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div= ></body></html> ------=_NextPart_000_0172_01DA697D.F9BF1910-- --===============7452313565299814297== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ spambayes-dev mailing list [email protected] https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes-dev --===============7452313565299814297==--