Re: Who is JT and why this NG won't be used?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:56:42 +0200, WazoO <[email protected]>  
wrote:

> "Ilgaz Ocal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 2006-01-26 17:17:36 +0200, "WazoO" <[email protected]> said:
>>
>> No, I am paying for a service advertised at www.spamcop.net as a
>> support to service (like donation) but I get something at return.
>>
>> Ask the person who is taking care of donations, you will figure I
>> really support Spamcop only.
>
> I have no idea what you are paying for or who you are sending
> your money to.  You first state "e-mail for a year" but then bring
> up "donations" .... if you follow the links, those options end up
> going to different people, different companies, different U.S.
> coasts .... That's your call.
>
>> I tell JT should consider adding a SMTP server which has strict
>> policies like "TLS only, port 583 secure login only" for "his" service.
>
> The last time "SpamCop.net" offered any SMTP service was back
> when Julian ran the whole thing on his own hardware, out of his own
> pocket.  And even then, it wasn't a 'graceful' tool.  The lack of SMTP
> remained when the newsgroups and e-mail services were moved
> over to JT's systems.  Technically, JT's CES system/company does
> offer full e-mail capabilties, but that is not the $30 / year SpamCop.net
> thing.
>
>> If spamcop does not get anything in return of the spamcop "hosted"
>> individual mail, it should be openly said in the first page mentioning
>> the service as well as it should warn that user has to find/use their
>> own SMTP server.
>
> The business arrangement is something done between Julian and JT ...
> long before IronPort got involved.
>
>

OK- I see you don't understand what I mean or act like not understanding.

I donate to services if they give an option even if they are serving for  
free is what I tried to mean but nevermind, not trying to explain any  
further.

If I need support, be sure I won't be heading to forums administered by  
you or any third party individual and I also thought Spamcop e mail system  
was an offer of Spamcop and/or Ironport.

Feedback sent to both parties as a responsible user and for sake of "Frog  
Prince" post, I am not posting anything about this or you anymore.

Just can you dig your faqs about:
1) How can I close/cancel my forum account
2) In case I need support, where do I cancel/revoke my spamcop.net hosted  
mail.

Being on net since '94 and BBS'es/HitNet/Fido before I am not getting into  
some reply duel with some 3rd individual.

The spamcop should be clear about:
1)Lack of SMTP
2)Who owns imap.spamcop.net and forums

on http://mailsc.spamcop.net/ces/individuals.shtml

Lack of SMTP was mentioned by me at
http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=3806&hl=

I really had no clue, still I see there is no clue about it still.
http://mailsc.spamcop.net/ces/account_new.shtml

Yea, forums are really effective I see :)

Have a nice day

Ilgaz


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