Re: Submitting bulk spam to spamcop

"Mike Easter" <[email protected]> Wed, 17 May 2006 20:53:18 -0700
Newsgroups gmane.mail.spam.spamcop.geeks
Organization SpamCop
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Marc Perkel wrote:

> Let me be more specific. I bounce over 2 million spams a day.

Where in this context 'bounce' means what?  Does bounce mean reject
during the smtp transaction?  Or something else?  Mail rejected during
transaction isn't 'available' for anyone to report as spam received.

Bounce is a very ambiguous term and sometimes it represents an abusive
server behavior -- so I think it is important to make it very clear what
happens to 2 million spams and how you count them and which logs we are
talking about.  Rejected transactions are not something useful to
counting as spams received by a user, and spams accepted for delivery
can't very well be belatedly 'bounced' in a healthy manner, where
belatedly bounced means addressing a newmail to a bogus From.

> Most of
> it is junk that everyone would bounce but some of it would be very
> useful to spamcop in learning new sources of spam and to find net
> sources for the URI list in particular.

I don't know what that sentence says or means, or intends to mean.

I'm not a SC admin, I'm just kibitzing here, but IMO the most important
thing that SC does is function as the maintainer of the SC blocklist of
spamsources.  I think SC does a very bad job of feeding spamvertised
URLs to sc-surbl and I think the majority of its function of notifying
spamvertiser providers 'for' spamcop reporters is not only worthless,
but counterproductive.

>  So what I need to do is fork
> off a copt automatically to some spamcop email address to receive
> this spam.

That doesn't work.

> So - I set up an account and I tried forwarding email to it and it
> started complaining that the email wasn't in the right format.

Correct.

> So what I need to be able to do is find a way to forward the email
> stream to a spamcop account.
>
> How do I do that?

You can't, if by 'account' you mean a spamcop reporter's account's
submit address.  Server forwarding to a SC submit address doesn't work
for the reasons I explained earlier.



-- 
Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin