Re: Submitting bulk spam to spamcop

Marc Perkel <[email protected]> Thu, 18 May 2006 13:32:28 -0700
Newsgroups gmane.mail.spam.spamcop.geeks
Organization SpamCop
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Mike Easter wrote:
> Marc Perkel wrote:
> 
>> Let me be more specific. I bounce over 2 million spams a day.
> 
> Where in this context 'bounce' means what?  Does bounce mean reject
> during the smtp transaction?  Or something else?  Mail rejected during
> transaction isn't 'available' for anyone to report as spam received.
> 
> Bounce is a very ambiguous term and sometimes it represents an abusive
> server behavior -- so I think it is important to make it very clear what
> happens to 2 million spams and how you count them and which logs we are
> talking about.  Rejected transactions are not something useful to
> counting as spams received by a user, and spams accepted for delivery
> can't very well be belatedly 'bounced' in a healthy manner, where
> belatedly bounced means addressing a newmail to a bogus From.
> 
>> Most of
>> it is junk that everyone would bounce but some of it would be very
>> useful to spamcop in learning new sources of spam and to find net
>> sources for the URI list in particular.
> 
> I don't know what that sentence says or means, or intends to mean.
> 
> I'm not a SC admin, I'm just kibitzing here, but IMO the most important
> thing that SC does is function as the maintainer of the SC blocklist of
> spamsources.  I think SC does a very bad job of feeding spamvertised
> URLs to sc-surbl and I think the majority of its function of notifying
> spamvertiser providers 'for' spamcop reporters is not only worthless,
> but counterproductive.
> 
>>  So what I need to do is fork
>> off a copt automatically to some spamcop email address to receive
>> this spam.
> 
> That doesn't work.
> 
>> So - I set up an account and I tried forwarding email to it and it
>> started complaining that the email wasn't in the right format.
> 
> Correct.
> 
>> So what I need to be able to do is find a way to forward the email
>> stream to a spamcop account.
>>
>> How do I do that?
> 
> You can't, if by 'account' you mean a spamcop reporter's account's
> submit address.  Server forwarding to a SC submit address doesn't work
> for the reasons I explained earlier.
> 
> 
> 


I know what doesn't work. I'm asking what does work.