Re: Spamcop failing to detect true originating IP

John Richards wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> wskrispy wrote:

>>> In any case, when I trim the source down to the bare minimum with
>>> just the originating headers Spamcop is now accepting it (I could
>>> have sworn I tried this a few days ago and it choked).
>>
>> That sounds like it might be a material change,

/Might/ is an important operative word there.

> How about if he just removes the headers added  by SpamAssassin?

It would seem that if one only removed headers added by SA, that the
residual wouldn't be very illegal -- but, that doesn't really compute
very well, because it would also seem that headers added by SA wouldn't
befuddle spamcop.

So, that causes me to question the analysis of the issue, which we are
spending a lot more time talking about some imaginary issue which hasn't
yet been displayed by the tracker which is the essential missing
ingredient in this conversation we shouldn't be having yet because the
OP failed to paste the trackers in the first place and then they failed
to paste the trackers in the second place, and now here we are having
some kind of complicated discussion about something that hasn't yet been
completely defined yet.

That is a big waste of time.  If we are going to talk about what is and
what is not likely to be breaking the rules of spamcop, we should be
looking at the first tracker and we should be looking at the second
tracker and we should be figuring out why some problem developed with
the first tracker and why the 2nd tracker isn't the best way to solve
the problem.

But instead of that, we are all typing and typing and typing and we
don't have any view of what it is we aren't even talking about
correctly.

> Aren't these things
> technically "material changes"?

Notice that we are now talking about your description of something
instead of your display of the real thing.

Describing something as specific as headers is silly, when we could be
talking about the real thing instead of an inadequate attempt to
describe the real thing.

-- 
Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin