Re: AOL Issue

Mike Easter wrote:
> Chris Wright wrote:
>
>> A good few months back I started getting failure messages back from
>> AOL when I used accounts that I forward SPAM from to SPAMCOP.

>> Something along the lines of "AOL is not able to process your email
>> because it comes from a domain that reports SPAM".

> The way spam reporting is supposed to work is that the reporter
> submits a spam to the parser, I recommend the webparser when you are
> learning and fine tuning your spam reporting.  I also recommend that
> you understand the structure of mail headers.

I was going to tell more about how spam reporting is supposed to work
with the webparser.

You put your spamitem with its complete headers into the webparser, not
an email - I'm more familiar with how to do that with OE, but you are
posting your message here with T'bird.  Tbird instructions are here
http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/21.html  How do I get my email
program to reveal the full, unmodified email? :  Netscape, Mozilla and
Thunderbird

Then the webparser determines the source of the email and who to notify
about that and what are the spamvertiser/s and who to notify about that.
It is important that if the parser should determine your own provider,
that you not make such a report, but find out what is wrong, see
http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/13.html  Why does SpamCop want to
send a report to my own network administrator?

This problem of reporting your own provider is even more of a problem if
you start doing something more complicated like forwarding spam to
spamcop for reporting.  If you perform forwarding incorrectly, you will
'always' report your own provider, because spamcop analyzes for the
source of the mail, and the source of the mail is you, your IP, your
provider's IP.

So, I don't recommend that reporters email submit to spamcop until they
have a good understanding of mail headers and what part of the mail
headers belong to their own provider and what part of the mail headers
indicate the source IP.

I'm currently working on a googleweb search of thunderbird with the
specific phrase 'forward as attachment' because the link above doesn't
address the issue satisfactorily for me.

In any case, you shouldn't be using your mailagent 'improperly' to
forward spam to spamcop's parser, especially if you 'forward' it
improperly instead of 'forward as attachment'.

If your spam reporting results in the provider's IP for your account/s
becoming spamcop blocklisted, you are going to have mail failures and
bounce messages which indicate the spamcop blocklisting.  I am not aware
of AOL using SC's blocklist or making a SCbl error message nor am I
aware of AOL blocking mail from 'spam reporting domains' which concept
nor term makes any sense whatsoever

Why don't we start out by your putting a spam into the webparser?  If
you are a registered spamcop reporter you can login an use the parser at
http://www.spamcop.net/


-- 
Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin