Re: Phish mail usually not reported to real site
Garen Erdoisa <[email protected]> Thu, 23 Mar 2006 22:39:43 -0700
| Newsgroups | gmane.mail.spam.spamcop.help |
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| Organization | SpamCop |
| Message-ID | <[email protected]> |
Bill wrote: > I notice that when I pass phish mail that I've received through > Spamcop, it typically does not end up reporting it to the owner > of the website that is being spoofed. I personally think that > ebay/Paypal mail should always been sent to spoof@ebay/paypal, > etc. The only times it seems to get reported to the actual site > is when there is a link to that site in the email. The user I've noticed that about paypal and ebay also. It seems that in the case of paypal and ebay, both of them don't like the format of spamcop reports. For those, I do a separate report directly to spoof@ebay/paypal in addition to spamcop, then try to remember to uncheck anything spamcop has routed their way. I also forward copies phish emails to reportphishing [at] antiphishing [dot] org which has both paypal, ebay, and many other financial institutions as sponsors. According to their website they do interface internationally with law enforcement as well to help get phishing sites shut down as soon as possible. Unfortunately it seems that 10 new zombie sites pop up for every one that gets shut down these days. Spamcop I feel is mostly useful for notifying the abuse desks of affected sites (as a courtesy) about new sources of spam originating from networks under their control. It's not much use for notifying an abuse desk about a spam problem when the abuse desk doesn't care. Those types of sites tend to be hard coded into spamfilters if they let it go long enough, which are 100 times harder to get out of than a mere DNS blocklist, since a spamfilter has to go through a publish cycle and have people actually install the updates. What those abuse desks choose to do with the reports they receive is entirely up to them. If they do nothing, the affected IP's eventually end up being blocked or filtered one way or another. So eventually the problem is taken care of by them, or by the rest of us collectively. > should have a way of telling Spamcop "this is phish mail" and > selecting where it gets sent to, as well as the FBI or whoever > investigates these things. You can add user defined recipients in your settings. Look in preferences, report handling options, Public standard report recipients It's just a comma separated list of email address which will let you check/uncheck for each spam report. It used to default to unchecked, but spamcop made a change (maybe a bug that they haven't fixed yet) that now has those all default to checked. Because of that, I took most of them off of mine since I found myself sometimes inadvertently sending spam reports to the wrong places when I got in a hurry because of forgetting to uncheck a box in that list. > > Bill Garen