Re: I don't know who's leaking this stuff...
"DougW" <[email protected]> Sun, 14 May 2006 10:34:55 -0500
| Newsgroups | gmane.mail.spam.spamcop.social |
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| Organization | Offroading and beer drinking association of associates. |
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David Dean did pass the time by typing: > In article <[email protected]>, > "DougW" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> And just how do you propose they catch the terrorists before they strike >> again? > > I'm not the best person to ask, but there is no excuse for ignoring > the Constitution to do it. There is nothing in the constitution to prevent them from doing what they are doing now. Only certain court decisions have established the right to privacy as a basic human right and thus protected under the 9th amendment. But the case law is not all encompassing. The 3rd and 4th for search and seizure apply primarily to private property. It's still up to the court to determine if the search was proper. If it wasn't, no information gathered from or due to that search would be admissible in court. Amendment 4 - Search and Seizure "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." "unreasonable" is the grey area. The argument of Constitutionality is moot. Phone records are property of the phone company, they are not private records. Food for thought, email is the same. Unlike snail-mail there are no privacy protections afforded to email that ISPs are not willing to fight for. -- DougW