Re: I don't know who's leaking this stuff...

Charles wrote:
> No way it was me! It was Chris Wright <[email protected]>!
>> Charles wrote:
>>> No way it was me! It was Chris Wright <[email protected]>!
>>>
>>>> Only those with something to hide have something to fear.
>>> Welcome to 1984.  Like, whoa.  So, a bit on the conservative side,
>>> then, are you?
>> 1984 was fiction.
>>
>> I am neither conservative nor anything else.
>> I look after my own interests (which these days my family are included
>> in those).
> 
> Right.  Sounds pretty conservative to me.

I maybe conservative in my views (according to your book), but I've 
voted Labour 5 times in the last 6 general elections.

> 
> 
>> Anything I can do to increase the safety of my family I will consider.
>> (Note I say consider)
> ...
>> I vote for which ever party has the best policy that yields the
>> benefit to myself (and now my family).
> 
> Sounds pretty short-sighted to me.  In fact, it sounds awfully, um, what's 
> the word again?  Ah, yes, conservative.

Short sited?  You must be one of the sheep then.

Taking an extreme. Lets say your black. The Labour party come up with 
the plan to expel all non-whites from the UK.
Now because your family has always voted Labour, and you have always 
voted Labour, your neighborhood has always voted Labour, you are still 
going to vote Labour even though you are going to get your ass kicked 
out of the country?

Do you ever bother to stop and look at the policies that 'they' 'claim' 
to be bringing to government?
Do you not weigh up which one benefits you, your business or just simply 
which has the better effect on your life and those closest around you?
Or do you bitch an moan when you find out that you voted for a massive 
increase in your taxes, a lowering of your pension rights, the loss of 
jobs to overseas?

Or do you just vote one party because its easier to just stick with one 
rather than find out what is actually going to benefit you. That is 
short-sighted.
That is the power of choice. The ability to choose for oneself.
i.e. not to align yourself to one party for the duration of your life.

No government has ever got it 100% right no matter which side of the 
party line they tow.  If they had done, we'd all be a happy bunch of 
campers and wouldn't be in half the crap the world is in now.  So there 
is nothing wrong with looking at the options which is far from 
short-sightedness.

> 
> 
>> I have nothing to hide, I commit no wrong, but if I did, what argument
>> do I have to oppose any action taken against me.
> 
> Whatever.  And what wrong did the lawyer in Oregon commit?  You know - the 
> one taken by the secret police for having bombed Madrid.  So, hey, no 
> problem.  Cool with me that they have your fingerprints - that won't affect 
> me at all.  Or, whatever.  But I'm done with this shit and I've barely 
> started.

That was just the FBI making a huge fundamental cock up. Some one should 
get the ass whooped for it, safeguards put in place to make sure it 
doesn't happen again.  A mistake against how many successes.

When a mistake is made it is made public and the whole world knows. 
Thats the beauty of the Freeworld (think UK/US et all).  In other 
countries, he and those around him making noise would disappear.
Thats the part that helps protect us against such cockups.

We only get to hear about the cockups because of that 'protection'.
They can't release details of each and every success because that would 
jeopardize the effectiveness of future use of such methods. (Surely?).