Re: I don't know who's leaking this stuff...

David Dean wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
>  Chris Wright <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> All I am saying is that here and now, there is a threat.  A major 
>> threat.  
> 
>    "people willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve 
> neither and will lose both" -Ben Franklin

Actually on reflection thats a pretty good quote and hard to oppose.

> 
>> But, if there was every such a time that the system was abused and 
>> misuse became apparent. I'd be standing next to the both of you calling 
>> for the whole damn thing to be shut down or whatever.
> 
>    This *is* an abuse if the system. Further, there have been similar 
> abuses in the past. We've had to push back against this before, and the 
> authoritarians don't give up. We have to remind people of the past. (Did 
> you google COINTELPRO?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cointelpro and after depressing yourself 
reading that, you can check out http://www.bushflash.com/ for a laugh

I had heard about the cointelpro but had to read the wiki to refresh my 
memory. (Not being the little activist that I once used to be).

Go on push me some more, I was 99% convinced at the start, I'm waivering 
around 56% now.

Nice to be able to discuss something in a group for a change without 
some jerk(s) getting personal.