Re: I don't know who's leaking this stuff...

"Berny" <[email protected]> Tue, 16 May 2006 12:32:02 -0500
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"David Dean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email protected]>,
>  "Berny" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Limits on search and seizure among others, but that's not what I was
> > referring to.
>
>    It is more complicated than a police search. You are being searched
> before being allowed onto private property. You are aware that the the
> search is a condition of flying. You consent to the search. (It is an
> implied consent) You can back out before the search and decide not to
> fly. What seizure are you talking about?
>
SNIP

Nevertheless, by agreeing to fly, or drive a car for that matter, you are
giving up certain rights.

Seizure? well 'm on my 10th little swiss army knife, and I've lost 3 beard
trimming scissors, and several nail clippers, although the last is a
complete mystery to me, I suppose I could threaten the pilot with; "If you
sit still, I'll clip a corner of your earlobe, unless you fly this plane
where I tell you".

Giving up the right not to be searched without probable cause is to some
extent voluntary, you can always walk, there is still some coercion, and
voluntary or not, you are giving up some rights, just as you do when you
accept the privilege of driving a car on a public  highway.