Re: I'm curious, how does Amazon.com end up on the SCBL?

"Vanguard" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.mail.spam.spamcop.user
Organization SpamCop
Message-ID <[email protected]>
"Mike Easter" <[email protected]> wrote in message 
news:[email protected]...
>
> You have configured your spam filter to use sorbs including the sorbs
> 127.0.0.6 which is the sorbs-spam list.
>
> Sorbs-spam list is built by sorbs using these criteria
> http://www.us.sorbs.net/faq/spamdb.shtml  and requires the IP owner to
> pay a US $50 'fine' to sorbs designated charity or good cause -- which
> many providers are disinclined to do -- to be delisted, and which
> listing will recur if a spamtrap or whatever is hit.
>

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Personally, the $50 "donation" reeks too much of extortion.  An IP 
address could get listed simply due to complaints from ignorant users 
who haven't a clue as to where a spam actually originated.  There are 
plenty of situations where an IP address is falsely listed.

Another problem with SORBS is that their list is hardly dynamic.  A 
source that got listed by SORBS could be on their blacklist for several 
months without regard to behavior after that time.  SpamCop is must more 
responsive (i.e., dynamic).  At one time, my IP lease expired and I got 
a new IP address (I'm on cable but occasional my IP address does 
change).  I ended up with one that a prior spammer had used and which 
was on the SORBS blacklist.  SORBS responded within 2 days to get their 
list updated to remove my IP address - but that record was over 4 months 
old (i.e., it had been that long since they added the record and nothing 
afterward would've caused that IP address to remain listed).  I don't 
use the SORBS list anymore because it doesn't reflect the current state 
of spam sources.

Because SORBS is slow to update their list, they don't accurately 
reflect the nature of Internet where users can and WILL get different IP 
addresses, some of which are blacklisted although the new user of that 
old IP address never spammed or may have never even sent a single 
e-mail.

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